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[Discussion] Motion to Declare George Holland Persona Non Grata

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:13 am
by Treize Dreizehn
So. I don't make this post lightly but today I came upon some information, which combined with some recent rhetoric has left me convinced that this is the best course of action for the region. To note I am referring to George Holland and any other aliases he may use.

Many of you know the basic outline of events that led to George Holland's exit from Osiris. An argument with the Pharaoh, calls for resignation, and his eventual recall. After his exit from government his ingame nation continued to garner endorsements. At the time we thought we were dealing with George Holland. It has come to my attention through George's comments in our embassy thread in TNP that he in fact gave his nation away to someone who was attempting to use it to subvert our government.

I am fully aware of the irony of my bringing this motion, but it is not entirely for those reasons. The previous sequence of events was hard on the region and threatened the fragile government we had in place at the time. Beyond that, George Holland has voiced a constant opposition to the OFO and even said he welcomed the eventual fall of the regional government.

That kind of attitude can have no place here.

So we'll have at least three days of discussion first. Let me know what you think.

[Discussion] Motion to Declare George Holland Persona Non Grata

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:23 am
by Vaculatestar
Can we get a link to Georges comments?

[Discussion] Motion to Declare George Holland Persona Non Grata

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:26 am
by Severisen Montresor
I think, as Treize says, this is an unfortunate, but needed, step. I would declare him PNG myself, as is within my power, but a Deshret declaration must be undone by a deshret. This is inherently a stronger statement. I supprt this movement.

For the record, his statement in TNP has been edited. It did say what Treize has alleged here. He also admitted it in #tnp as well.

[Discussion] Motion to Declare George Holland Persona Non Grata

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:34 am
by Treize Dreizehn
Vaculatestar wrote:Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:23 pmCan we get a link to Georges comments?
This post: http://forum.thenorthpacific.org/single ... &t=7202985

Though he edited it as soon as I posted this. There are numerous folks who can attest to what it contained.

[Discussion] Motion to Declare George Holland Persona Non Grata

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:55 am
by Charles Cerebella
This seems a sensible move on the whole.

[Discussion] Motion to Declare George Holland Persona Non Grata

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:03 am
by Vaculatestar
Fair enough. I fully support this move.

[Discussion] Motion to Declare George Holland Persona Non Grata

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:37 am
by War Wombat
ah, well.

[Discussion] Motion to Declare George Holland Persona Non Grata

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:27 pm
by Koth
He used to be a pretty solid friend of mine, but it's been an unfortunate ride that's got us to this point.

I support this motion.

[Discussion] Motion to Declare George Holland Persona Non Grata

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:13 pm
by shetef
Full support from me.

[Discussion] Motion to Declare George Holland Persona Non Grata

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:53 pm
by Andrew
I do not know him well enough but from your comments and opinions, I support