Discussion Thread: New Atef Nominations
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Treize Dreizehn
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Discussion Thread: New Atef Nominations
I am opening up the floor, at the request of the Pharaoh, for nominations for the Atef.
Suggested guidelines:
People who either apply or are nominated by a Counciler should be willing to commit to at least 3 months of WA immobility, and be trusted long term member of the region.
I'd like to open by saying that Severison and Revert seemed to have pretty strong support in the aborted vote, and should probably be strongly considered as options going forward. We'd ideally have 3 more people to include(for a total of 5) but there's no required number.
Suggested guidelines:
People who either apply or are nominated by a Counciler should be willing to commit to at least 3 months of WA immobility, and be trusted long term member of the region.
I'd like to open by saying that Severison and Revert seemed to have pretty strong support in the aborted vote, and should probably be strongly considered as options going forward. We'd ideally have 3 more people to include(for a total of 5) but there's no required number.
Discussion Thread: New Atef Nominations
I don't have any suggestions beyond Severisen and Revert. Most of our citizens prefer WA mobility.
His Majesty Cormac Skollvaldr
Bru'uh of Osiris - Co-Founder of the Osiris Fraternal Order
Hasal-Pharaoh of Osiris (3x)
Khetemtai in the House of Osiris
"Follow your arrow wherever it points." - Kacey Musgraves, "Follow Your Arrow"
Bru'uh of Osiris - Co-Founder of the Osiris Fraternal Order
Hasal-Pharaoh of Osiris (3x)
Khetemtai in the House of Osiris
"Follow your arrow wherever it points." - Kacey Musgraves, "Follow Your Arrow"
- Lord Ravenclaw
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Discussion Thread: New Atef Nominations
That is the problem I've faced, I've spent the better part of a month umming and ahhhhing over prospective names.
Joshua Ravenclaw
5th April 2012 - "The Pharaoh-Emeritus of the Imperial Crown" - The Tenth Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Pharaoh of Osiris, First elected Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order, Former Advisor to the Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Spokespriest and Priest of the Council of Ma'at, Deputy Grand Hedjeti and Priest of the Hedjet and Guardian of the Atef
Former Vice Delegate, Justice and Chief Justice, Former Sepatarch, Co-Spokesperson of the Sepatarchy
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5th April 2012 - "The Pharaoh-Emeritus of the Imperial Crown" - The Tenth Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Pharaoh of Osiris, First elected Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order, Former Advisor to the Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Spokespriest and Priest of the Council of Ma'at, Deputy Grand Hedjeti and Priest of the Hedjet and Guardian of the Atef
Former Vice Delegate, Justice and Chief Justice, Former Sepatarch, Co-Spokesperson of the Sepatarchy
Former Vizier of Foreign Affairs, Scribe of Foreign Affairs, Deputy of Foreign Affairs and Director of the Diplomatic Service
Former Global Moderator and Administrator
Discussion Thread: New Atef Nominations
If it's not problematic for me to be both Scribe and Guardian, I would like to volunteer my WA. I don't have any pressing desire or need to be WA mobile right now (Sekhmet seems to prefer majors and I can continue with Jomsvikings in an advisory capacity).
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Discussion Thread: New Atef Nominations
The worry was that we'd restrict our military forces by using the military and there was already concern expressed when I wanted to appoint Ygfbv as Vizier.
Joshua Ravenclaw
5th April 2012 - "The Pharaoh-Emeritus of the Imperial Crown" - The Tenth Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Pharaoh of Osiris, First elected Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order, Former Advisor to the Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Spokespriest and Priest of the Council of Ma'at, Deputy Grand Hedjeti and Priest of the Hedjet and Guardian of the Atef
Former Vice Delegate, Justice and Chief Justice, Former Sepatarch, Co-Spokesperson of the Sepatarchy
Former Vizier of Foreign Affairs, Scribe of Foreign Affairs, Deputy of Foreign Affairs and Director of the Diplomatic Service
Former Global Moderator and Administrator
5th April 2012 - "The Pharaoh-Emeritus of the Imperial Crown" - The Tenth Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Pharaoh of Osiris, First elected Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order, Former Advisor to the Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Spokespriest and Priest of the Council of Ma'at, Deputy Grand Hedjeti and Priest of the Hedjet and Guardian of the Atef
Former Vice Delegate, Justice and Chief Justice, Former Sepatarch, Co-Spokesperson of the Sepatarchy
Former Vizier of Foreign Affairs, Scribe of Foreign Affairs, Deputy of Foreign Affairs and Director of the Diplomatic Service
Former Global Moderator and Administrator
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Treize Dreizehn
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Discussion Thread: New Atef Nominations
It sounds like Zeorus is saying he doesn't really care to be active in the military right now, so that's at least something. I'd definitely support him as an option. At the very least three is a good number to have. I think two is just too few.Lord Ravenclaw wrote:Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:36 pmThe worry was that we'd restrict our military forces by using the military and there was already concern expressed when I wanted to appoint Ygfbv as Vizier.
Discussion Thread: New Atef Nominations
From a legal perspective, there's no restriction in the State Code against Scribes serving on the Atef so nominating Zeorus would be entirely legal.
Regarding not taking members from the military, I think it might be unavoidable -- as we simply don't have many people who are willing to be WA immobile. Zeorus is a trusted member of the community so if he's sure that he doesn't mind being WA immobile, I would certainly support his confirmation along with those of Severisen and Revert if the Pharaoh chooses to nominate him.
I would also suggest Josh Sebastian and Jurisdictions, if they're interested, except that for some reason we've prohibited Elders of the Pschent from serving on the Atef. I think we did that because the Atef is technically part of the Executive, but given that the Atef is simply a security council I'm not sure that poses too much of a conflict of interest. Nonetheless, the State Code would need to be amended before anyone could serve on both bodies.
Regarding not taking members from the military, I think it might be unavoidable -- as we simply don't have many people who are willing to be WA immobile. Zeorus is a trusted member of the community so if he's sure that he doesn't mind being WA immobile, I would certainly support his confirmation along with those of Severisen and Revert if the Pharaoh chooses to nominate him.
I would also suggest Josh Sebastian and Jurisdictions, if they're interested, except that for some reason we've prohibited Elders of the Pschent from serving on the Atef. I think we did that because the Atef is technically part of the Executive, but given that the Atef is simply a security council I'm not sure that poses too much of a conflict of interest. Nonetheless, the State Code would need to be amended before anyone could serve on both bodies.
His Majesty Cormac Skollvaldr
Bru'uh of Osiris - Co-Founder of the Osiris Fraternal Order
Hasal-Pharaoh of Osiris (3x)
Khetemtai in the House of Osiris
"Follow your arrow wherever it points." - Kacey Musgraves, "Follow Your Arrow"
Bru'uh of Osiris - Co-Founder of the Osiris Fraternal Order
Hasal-Pharaoh of Osiris (3x)
Khetemtai in the House of Osiris
"Follow your arrow wherever it points." - Kacey Musgraves, "Follow Your Arrow"
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Discussion Thread: New Atef Nominations
Hmm, all the suggested appointments seem good. 3 would seem a good number though, if Zeorus wanted then thats definitely an option.
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I'm planning on retiring from NS military life with the exception of Jomsvikings in an advisory capacity, so yes, I have absolutely no problem with WA immobility at this time.
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- Lord Ravenclaw
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Very well, I have no issues nominating Zeorus for the Atef.
Joshua Ravenclaw
5th April 2012 - "The Pharaoh-Emeritus of the Imperial Crown" - The Tenth Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Pharaoh of Osiris, First elected Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order, Former Advisor to the Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Spokespriest and Priest of the Council of Ma'at, Deputy Grand Hedjeti and Priest of the Hedjet and Guardian of the Atef
Former Vice Delegate, Justice and Chief Justice, Former Sepatarch, Co-Spokesperson of the Sepatarchy
Former Vizier of Foreign Affairs, Scribe of Foreign Affairs, Deputy of Foreign Affairs and Director of the Diplomatic Service
Former Global Moderator and Administrator
5th April 2012 - "The Pharaoh-Emeritus of the Imperial Crown" - The Tenth Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Pharaoh of Osiris, First elected Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order, Former Advisor to the Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Spokespriest and Priest of the Council of Ma'at, Deputy Grand Hedjeti and Priest of the Hedjet and Guardian of the Atef
Former Vice Delegate, Justice and Chief Justice, Former Sepatarch, Co-Spokesperson of the Sepatarchy
Former Vizier of Foreign Affairs, Scribe of Foreign Affairs, Deputy of Foreign Affairs and Director of the Diplomatic Service
Former Global Moderator and Administrator
