Amendment to section 2;3;a; posthumus Discussion

Ainocra · Post by **Ainocra** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:36 pm

Councilor

I have explained it repeatedly.

As this has been moved and seconded twice I feel we should bring it to a vote and remove this clause so that we may get back to the business of governing.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:09 pm

Ainocra wrote:Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:36 pmCouncilor

I have explained it repeatedly.

As this has been moved and seconded twice I feel we should bring it to a vote and remove this clause so that we may get back to the business of governing.

Noted. I will put it to vote shortly.

Ainocra · Post by **Ainocra** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:29 pm

My thanks Keeper

Post by **Jakker** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:54 pm

Am I taking crazy pills?

Why are we ignoring the ruling made?

https://osiris.valthost.com/viewtopic.p ... 895/1/#new

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:17 pm

Jakker wrote:Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:54 pmAm I taking crazy pills?

Why are we ignoring the ruling made?

https://osiris.valthost.com/viewtopic.p ... 895/1/#new

The Judiciary interprets the law. The Legislature makes the law. The legislature is making the law. If there is a Court ruling on a legal matter, it is the opinions of the Court on how it should be interpreted as. However, that does not prevent the Deshret from changing the law, perhaps rendering the ruling void.

Post by **Jakker** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:34 pm

Then what does these clauses of the State Code of Osiris mean?

3. The Pschent will have the power to nullify any law or portion of law that contradicts this Code, and to order the cessation of any government action that violates this Code or the laws of Osiris. The Pschent may only exercise this power if petitioned to do so by an affected citizen of Osiris.

5. Decisions by the Pschent amount to interpretation of the law, and those decisions and interpretation are binding on the Pschent and all government bodies and officials.

Was the petition by Datford-Zyvetskistaahn not what clause 3 of Section 4 is referring to? Clearly, I'm not following

Ainocra · Post by **Ainocra** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:31 pm

First, this debate does not belong in the throne room.

To that end I will split the thread and move it back into the debate thread on the amendment

Secondly to answer your question this is an amendment to the state code not a statutory law that the Pschent can simply nullify.
Since it is an amendment it does not conflict with the state code it is a part of the state code.

Post by **Jakker** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:23 pm

Ah ok. Thank you for clarifying and I apologize for thread jacking.

Ainocra · Post by **Ainocra** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:29 pm

My pleasure and no worries

best to ask if you don't know