Koth 4 Pharaoh
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- Lord Ravenclaw
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Koth 4 Pharaoh
(I think it's safe to say most the OFO Pharaohs, if not all prefer that path, Amerion
Being defender is soooo KRO. Unless Tim is signing us up to the FRA.)
Joshua Ravenclaw
5th April 2012 - "The Pharaoh-Emeritus of the Imperial Crown" - The Tenth Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Pharaoh of Osiris, First elected Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order, Former Advisor to the Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Spokespriest and Priest of the Council of Ma'at, Deputy Grand Hedjeti and Priest of the Hedjet and Guardian of the Atef
Former Vice Delegate, Justice and Chief Justice, Former Sepatarch, Co-Spokesperson of the Sepatarchy
Former Vizier of Foreign Affairs, Scribe of Foreign Affairs, Deputy of Foreign Affairs and Director of the Diplomatic Service
Former Global Moderator and Administrator
5th April 2012 - "The Pharaoh-Emeritus of the Imperial Crown" - The Tenth Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Pharaoh of Osiris, First elected Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order, Former Advisor to the Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Spokespriest and Priest of the Council of Ma'at, Deputy Grand Hedjeti and Priest of the Hedjet and Guardian of the Atef
Former Vice Delegate, Justice and Chief Justice, Former Sepatarch, Co-Spokesperson of the Sepatarchy
Former Vizier of Foreign Affairs, Scribe of Foreign Affairs, Deputy of Foreign Affairs and Director of the Diplomatic Service
Former Global Moderator and Administrator
Koth 4 Pharaoh
YesAmerion wrote:Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:54 amBased on what I've read, is it correct to say that in R/D you prefer the former as a general direction for Osiris?

His Majesty Ambroscus Koth Vytherov, Hasal-Pharaoh, Bru'uh of Osiris
Khetemtai in the House of Sekhmet
Recipient of the Crown of Osiris
Recipient of the Violet Jewel of Atum


Koth 4 Pharaoh
You have my support 
Koth 4 Pharaoh
Thank you, Rach <3Rach wrote:Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:34 pmYou have my support

His Majesty Ambroscus Koth Vytherov, Hasal-Pharaoh, Bru'uh of Osiris
Khetemtai in the House of Sekhmet
Recipient of the Crown of Osiris
Recipient of the Violet Jewel of Atum


- Xoriet Montresor
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Koth 4 Pharaoh
Have fun with your scenario, Koth. 
You are a month past your election. Everything had seemed fairly well and good...until your Vizier attempted to coup the region out from under your feet. He was exposed and stopped by your allies before securing the Delegacy, but the damage is done. Several of your government members are exposed as participants, and you are forced to deal with them as well. Now you are trying to stabilize your shaken region, and repelling attacks by your former Vizier and dealing with declarations of support for him by political enemies whose ire towards you is known. Your allies are defending you, but the chaos is bad news.
Unfortunately, that is not the end of it. You are suddenly blackmailed for something you did a long time ago by a political rival in the region. The blackmail is, while not completely earthshaking, very bad in light of the current situation. Their demands are that you make them Vizier and restore to them admin as well. This political rival is one of the candidates you ran against only a month ago. He begins to threaten to spread ugly rumors to the less informed members of the region when you hesitate, and you do not have the influence left to lose endorsements and face another coup attempt.
Your allies are working furiously to aid you, but that is when you are attacked on an entirely new level. You receive a TG containing sensitive information that you really don’t want to share with the public as it pertains to IRL. The sender threatens you to resign or have your information published across the site. You aren’t sure who it is or if they will make good on this threat, but the threat is there.
You now have post-coup chaos both internal and external, blackmail, and threats all wrapped up in one shiny package. Your allies are matched by your enemies, and you are concerned that old endorsements in the region left over from nations who participated in the coup attempt may assume WA and threaten your Delegacy again. Still, under the circumstances, you do not have the leisure to simply ban them without being accused of purging rivals. With threats to you and your government on all sides, what do you do?
You are a month past your election. Everything had seemed fairly well and good...until your Vizier attempted to coup the region out from under your feet. He was exposed and stopped by your allies before securing the Delegacy, but the damage is done. Several of your government members are exposed as participants, and you are forced to deal with them as well. Now you are trying to stabilize your shaken region, and repelling attacks by your former Vizier and dealing with declarations of support for him by political enemies whose ire towards you is known. Your allies are defending you, but the chaos is bad news.
Unfortunately, that is not the end of it. You are suddenly blackmailed for something you did a long time ago by a political rival in the region. The blackmail is, while not completely earthshaking, very bad in light of the current situation. Their demands are that you make them Vizier and restore to them admin as well. This political rival is one of the candidates you ran against only a month ago. He begins to threaten to spread ugly rumors to the less informed members of the region when you hesitate, and you do not have the influence left to lose endorsements and face another coup attempt.
Your allies are working furiously to aid you, but that is when you are attacked on an entirely new level. You receive a TG containing sensitive information that you really don’t want to share with the public as it pertains to IRL. The sender threatens you to resign or have your information published across the site. You aren’t sure who it is or if they will make good on this threat, but the threat is there.
You now have post-coup chaos both internal and external, blackmail, and threats all wrapped up in one shiny package. Your allies are matched by your enemies, and you are concerned that old endorsements in the region left over from nations who participated in the coup attempt may assume WA and threaten your Delegacy again. Still, under the circumstances, you do not have the leisure to simply ban them without being accused of purging rivals. With threats to you and your government on all sides, what do you do?
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Koth 4 Pharaoh
So I come back from the store after a long day of school shopping and what do I find? The cuck that I trusted to be able to lead the region in my absence has taken it upon himself to shove a big ol' knife directly into my back. What a fuckhead. Alas, there's nothing I can do now but defend my legitimacy. This is made easier of course by my awesome allies, and for their assistance in ratting this dude out I pledge them all the support I can in my position. I gather these trustworthy folk together and have them catch me up on what I need to know. Time is of the essence.
Oh fuck me, I think, when they inform me that many of my own government members were behind the Vizier on this plot. There's no use in sugar coating it, these guys need to have their treason dealt with and pronto. I would have to banject whoever was posing the most of a threat, and petition the Deshret to keep them banned for more than one update. I'd then have to attempt to get them removed from the Deshret for behavior unbecoming of a councilor, but unfortunately bureaucracy takes time to work (five days, if not everyone votes) and there's always the threat of enough councilors not being on the legitimate side to get the majority vote to work. Then I'm facing a serious boning.
Ignoring the peanut gallery of hypothetical political enemies who are declaring their support for King Cuck, I should be able to able to deal with dissent in this way without resorting to temper pushing me to punish them extra-judicially. I have enough support, my enemies have not a leg to stand on in regards to legitimacy, they can't sue me for any wrongdoing, and that makes them look bad on the world stage. Everything's going okay, I can deal with this right?
Until I get the threat of some pretty bad blackmail. I struggle to think what this shitlord could possibly have on me, but figure I probably don't want the world to find out. This guy was apparently (hypothetically) on my trusted admin team at some point too, which makes this all more the infuriating. What, are you kidding me? He wants me to make him VIZIER and an ADMIN again? Okay big boy, that's not how I roll. You could tell the world I plotted to coup every GCR ever, I don't give a shit what you have on me, that is NOT the way you get what you want from Kothles. He's evidently spreading shitty rumors about me anyway, I have no reason to believe this slime has any intention of keeping that blackmail to himself if he gets what he wants anyway. My allies can decide for themselves whether or not they want to support me or a bunch of desperate opportunists from that point on, and I'll respect that decision. I don't negotiate with terrorists.
Oh look, the perfect scenario pops up to make me eat those words. Now a truly terrible human being has brought my RL information into this, and threatens to release it if I don't resign.
Fuck. That.
At this point I'm really contemplating my priorities in life, hypothetically of course. Why have the toxic players in this game let it get to this point? What did I do that was so deserving of that treatment? These are the thoughts going through my mind as I inform my allies of this threat I have received. Depending on the severity of the TG, ranging from not that bad to "I will personally go to your house at [this address] while you're at work at [employer] and murder your cats", I'll need to decide how worth it my leadership of this region is. This is a very difficult question to answer, but I'd like to think that I'd be able to call anything but an extremely good bluff and stay in the seat.
Given the events that have transpired, I honestly don't give a shiggy diggy shit about what these losers want to pull in regards to making me look bad for "purging my rivals". At this point I have had my RL information threatened to be released, I've fought off blackmail that's been released to the world, everything about my NS career is on the table. Whiners from the peanut gallery calling me a tyrant are the least of my concerns. Those individuals are being nowhere near Osiris during my Pharaohship, whether anyone likes it or not. I don't care if it kills any political credibility I had. The only people who'd care are those who evidently don't care about my RL health, or Osiris, so fuck them. I hope they do hate me. Hypothetically, of course.
I'd serve out the rest of my term faithfully and to the best of my ability, and after profusely thanking the allies that had stood by my side loyally during all of that shit, I'd promptly quit NS politics forever and go back to raiding. Seriously, what sane person would stay involved after this hypothetical scenario. You're dastardly and I hope I provided insight into my thought process, Xoriet
Oh fuck me, I think, when they inform me that many of my own government members were behind the Vizier on this plot. There's no use in sugar coating it, these guys need to have their treason dealt with and pronto. I would have to banject whoever was posing the most of a threat, and petition the Deshret to keep them banned for more than one update. I'd then have to attempt to get them removed from the Deshret for behavior unbecoming of a councilor, but unfortunately bureaucracy takes time to work (five days, if not everyone votes) and there's always the threat of enough councilors not being on the legitimate side to get the majority vote to work. Then I'm facing a serious boning.
Ignoring the peanut gallery of hypothetical political enemies who are declaring their support for King Cuck, I should be able to able to deal with dissent in this way without resorting to temper pushing me to punish them extra-judicially. I have enough support, my enemies have not a leg to stand on in regards to legitimacy, they can't sue me for any wrongdoing, and that makes them look bad on the world stage. Everything's going okay, I can deal with this right?
Until I get the threat of some pretty bad blackmail. I struggle to think what this shitlord could possibly have on me, but figure I probably don't want the world to find out. This guy was apparently (hypothetically) on my trusted admin team at some point too, which makes this all more the infuriating. What, are you kidding me? He wants me to make him VIZIER and an ADMIN again? Okay big boy, that's not how I roll. You could tell the world I plotted to coup every GCR ever, I don't give a shit what you have on me, that is NOT the way you get what you want from Kothles. He's evidently spreading shitty rumors about me anyway, I have no reason to believe this slime has any intention of keeping that blackmail to himself if he gets what he wants anyway. My allies can decide for themselves whether or not they want to support me or a bunch of desperate opportunists from that point on, and I'll respect that decision. I don't negotiate with terrorists.
Oh look, the perfect scenario pops up to make me eat those words. Now a truly terrible human being has brought my RL information into this, and threatens to release it if I don't resign.
Fuck. That.
At this point I'm really contemplating my priorities in life, hypothetically of course. Why have the toxic players in this game let it get to this point? What did I do that was so deserving of that treatment? These are the thoughts going through my mind as I inform my allies of this threat I have received. Depending on the severity of the TG, ranging from not that bad to "I will personally go to your house at [this address] while you're at work at [employer] and murder your cats", I'll need to decide how worth it my leadership of this region is. This is a very difficult question to answer, but I'd like to think that I'd be able to call anything but an extremely good bluff and stay in the seat.
Given the events that have transpired, I honestly don't give a shiggy diggy shit about what these losers want to pull in regards to making me look bad for "purging my rivals". At this point I have had my RL information threatened to be released, I've fought off blackmail that's been released to the world, everything about my NS career is on the table. Whiners from the peanut gallery calling me a tyrant are the least of my concerns. Those individuals are being nowhere near Osiris during my Pharaohship, whether anyone likes it or not. I don't care if it kills any political credibility I had. The only people who'd care are those who evidently don't care about my RL health, or Osiris, so fuck them. I hope they do hate me. Hypothetically, of course.
I'd serve out the rest of my term faithfully and to the best of my ability, and after profusely thanking the allies that had stood by my side loyally during all of that shit, I'd promptly quit NS politics forever and go back to raiding. Seriously, what sane person would stay involved after this hypothetical scenario. You're dastardly and I hope I provided insight into my thought process, Xoriet

His Majesty Ambroscus Koth Vytherov, Hasal-Pharaoh, Bru'uh of Osiris
Khetemtai in the House of Sekhmet
Recipient of the Crown of Osiris
Recipient of the Violet Jewel of Atum


- Xoriet Montresor
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Koth 4 Pharaoh
Well answered, Koth.
This provided an excellent view into your thought process. These scenarios are not meant to be easy by any stretch of the imagination, much less likely to happen, and God forbid this actually happens to someone in the seat.
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Koth 4 Pharaoh
This question is asked in all earnest, and should not be taken the wrong way.
Your Osiris nation has been in the WA only since yesterday; will you be able to fend off a threat to your delegacy if it comes early in your term, or will you have to do what others have done in similar circumstances: turn over your seat temporarily to a regionmate with more influence until the threat has abated?
Your Osiris nation has been in the WA only since yesterday; will you be able to fend off a threat to your delegacy if it comes early in your term, or will you have to do what others have done in similar circumstances: turn over your seat temporarily to a regionmate with more influence until the threat has abated?
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Koth 4 Pharaoh
There's a tactic that's been used routinely in GCR transitions since its inceptions called the slingshot. It was used extensively in the foundation of this very government, by me.
Using that method in tandem with the trusted Atef should be more than enough to dispatch any threat to the delegacy, given the influence differences in the region.
Using that method in tandem with the trusted Atef should be more than enough to dispatch any threat to the delegacy, given the influence differences in the region.

His Majesty Ambroscus Koth Vytherov, Hasal-Pharaoh, Bru'uh of Osiris
Khetemtai in the House of Sekhmet
Recipient of the Crown of Osiris
Recipient of the Violet Jewel of Atum


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Fun fact, it was also used to remove Rogue Delegate, and traitor, The Dourian Embassy from Osiris in July 2013 by High Priest of the Council of Ma'at, Sentimental Journey. I only lament that I wasn't able to do it myself.Koth wrote:Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:14 pmThere's a tactic that's been used routinely in GCR transitions since its inceptions called the slingshot. It was used extensively in the foundation of this very government, by me.
Joshua Ravenclaw
5th April 2012 - "The Pharaoh-Emeritus of the Imperial Crown" - The Tenth Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Pharaoh of Osiris, First elected Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order, Former Advisor to the Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Spokespriest and Priest of the Council of Ma'at, Deputy Grand Hedjeti and Priest of the Hedjet and Guardian of the Atef
Former Vice Delegate, Justice and Chief Justice, Former Sepatarch, Co-Spokesperson of the Sepatarchy
Former Vizier of Foreign Affairs, Scribe of Foreign Affairs, Deputy of Foreign Affairs and Director of the Diplomatic Service
Former Global Moderator and Administrator
5th April 2012 - "The Pharaoh-Emeritus of the Imperial Crown" - The Tenth Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Pharaoh of Osiris, First elected Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order, Former Advisor to the Pharaoh of Osiris
Former Spokespriest and Priest of the Council of Ma'at, Deputy Grand Hedjeti and Priest of the Hedjet and Guardian of the Atef
Former Vice Delegate, Justice and Chief Justice, Former Sepatarch, Co-Spokesperson of the Sepatarchy
Former Vizier of Foreign Affairs, Scribe of Foreign Affairs, Deputy of Foreign Affairs and Director of the Diplomatic Service
Former Global Moderator and Administrator
