Prevention of Wildfires
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.
Category: International Security
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission Description: The World Assembly,
Rejoicing that many nations include not only urban areas and farmland but also wide expanses of natural or at least semi-natural habitats too,
Realising that although most nations probably have fairly adequate measures in place for controlling fires in urban areas some might not yet have extended those systems to cover their more rural areas effectively too, and that the best ways for managing fires in rural areas — especially in wilderness — may differ from those useful at more urban sites anyway,
Aware that wide areas of vegetation (especially those of woodland, such as may be called ‘forests’) are often likely to contain large amounts of combustible material, leading to serious risks that any fires started there might spread uncontrollably and cause significant damage,
Wise to the fact that natural fire can be an integral and even important factor in some ecosystems, and that even in ‘wild’ areas where that is not the case carrying out controlled burns of limited extent to reduce potential fuel levels for unplanned fires may be a better policy than simply trying to prevent all fires there altogether,
Regarding this as an ‘international’ enough topic for WA legislation because even when a fire itself does not cross international borders the smoke-clouds from it may do so, maybeso with seriously harmful results, as well as for the potential effects on global environments and endangered species;
Hereby,
1). Instructs all member nations to:
i/ Have and enforce, across all of their territory, laws against both reckless fire-starting and the deliberate starting of inadequately controllable fires;
ii/ Have suitable plans, with the necessary personnel and equipment for those, in place for managing fires everywhere within their borders, to the best extent practical within reason;
iii/ Ensure that the relevant people in any other nations likely to be significantly affected are given reasonable notice of planned fires and, as far as is practical within reason, arrange those fires for mutually agreed dates;
iv/ Ensure that the relevant people in any other nations likely to be significantly affected are also notified of any unplanned fires that are identified;
v/ Refrain from the use of uncontrolled fire as a weapon or tool of war in wilderness and semi-wilderness areas, and in any other places from which the fires would be likely to spread into such areas.
2). Encourages member nations to:
i/ Include the safe handling of Fire at a basic level in their educational syllabuses;
ii/ Coordinate plans for controlling fire in border areas with relevant neighbours;
iii/ Cross-train suitable units and individual volunteers from their armed forces in fire-fighting, and position suitable equipment ready for their use, so that when not actually needed for more martial duties they can assist in this work; and deploy other units with relevant skills and equipment to assist in fire-management efforts as appropriate.
3). Instructs the WA Disaster Board to study and to distribute as appropriate information about fire hazards and fire-control methods; urges member nations to share all relevant data that they possess with the WADB; and offers this service to any non-WA nations that are interested (and are willing to pay reasonable fees, share their relevant date with the WADB, and meet clause #1’s terms to the same extent that would be necessary if they were WA members) too.
Ma'at Kheru: Prevention of Wildfires
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Ok. So this particular resolution attempts to prevent forest fires. And it's a nation of bears who authored it. Apparently only you can prevent forest fires.
On a more serious note, while I have some problems with the language in the introductory clauses ("wise to"... really?), it's the operative clauses that cause the most problems. We talk all the time about repealing legislation for inadequately defined terms. The problem comes in adding in the language of course.
Section 1.i is our first stop:
Beyond that, "inadequately controllable" is a difficult phrase to really get behind. No fire is absolutely controllable, and I'd have sincerely preferred that it either refrain from mentioning such fires at all. Controlled burns are a method firefighters use to fight wildfires, and they do get out of hand on occasion. I don't see why I need to have laws governing that unless they're being reckless(in which case our own nations likely have a law against reckless endangerment/manslaughter or an ability to sue for property damage). The phrase is "inadequately controllable" is inadequately sufficient to deal with all of the nuance that controlled burns involve.
Section 1.ii is another charlie foxtrot.
1.iii and iv have some of the same problems as above. They repeat "practical within reason" and require nations to notify other nations when a planned or unplanned fire can affect them. Now I'm not a stickler for IntFed reasoning, but while you're on the topic shouldn't there be a bit in here about notifying people within your own borders as well? It seems that while you're there that would be a reasonable step.
1.v has a clause about not using fire as a weapon of war. Which strikes me as a bit of an overreach. The facts on the ground could be anything, and I'd much rather not tie the hands of my generals in the use of tactics. I'd discourage it, strongly even... but getting rid of it completely is too far.
Section 2 are encouraging clauses... so nothing in them has to be followed. We'll ignore them.
Section 3 on the other hand is a whole 'nother matter.
All in all, this resolution is heavily flawed. Filled with typos and I think is unneeded. I recommend a vote against.
On a more serious note, while I have some problems with the language in the introductory clauses ("wise to"... really?), it's the operative clauses that cause the most problems. We talk all the time about repealing legislation for inadequately defined terms. The problem comes in adding in the language of course.
Section 1.i is our first stop:
Now one assumes the inclusion of the term "across all of their territory" is supposed to mean you can't just have a law against fires in one small section of the nation and consider that part fullfilled. Sadly, the phrasing there is vague enough(in that I can have a law across all my territory not to start fires in a small section of the nation), to fail in that task while still drawing attention to the fact that that was the intent. It's sloppy work to fix a problem that probably didn't need fixing in the first place.i/ Have and enforce, across all of their territory, laws against both reckless fire-starting and the deliberate starting of inadequately controllable fires;
Beyond that, "inadequately controllable" is a difficult phrase to really get behind. No fire is absolutely controllable, and I'd have sincerely preferred that it either refrain from mentioning such fires at all. Controlled burns are a method firefighters use to fight wildfires, and they do get out of hand on occasion. I don't see why I need to have laws governing that unless they're being reckless(in which case our own nations likely have a law against reckless endangerment/manslaughter or an ability to sue for property damage). The phrase is "inadequately controllable" is inadequately sufficient to deal with all of the nuance that controlled burns involve.
Section 1.ii is another charlie foxtrot.
Comma misplacement aside, the phrase "to the best extent practical within reason" ought to be a crime itself.ii/ Have suitable plans, with the necessary personnel and equipment for those, in place for managing fires everywhere within their borders, to the best extent practical within reason;
1.iii and iv have some of the same problems as above. They repeat "practical within reason" and require nations to notify other nations when a planned or unplanned fire can affect them. Now I'm not a stickler for IntFed reasoning, but while you're on the topic shouldn't there be a bit in here about notifying people within your own borders as well? It seems that while you're there that would be a reasonable step.
1.v has a clause about not using fire as a weapon of war. Which strikes me as a bit of an overreach. The facts on the ground could be anything, and I'd much rather not tie the hands of my generals in the use of tactics. I'd discourage it, strongly even... but getting rid of it completely is too far.
Section 2 are encouraging clauses... so nothing in them has to be followed. We'll ignore them.
Section 3 on the other hand is a whole 'nother matter.
There are two missing commas. It should read "to distribute, as appropriate, information about fire hazards". Without the comma that clause takes on a different meaning. Which is bad because the next line while still an "urges" clause, asks that nations "share all relevant data". I wouldn't mind the proposal not saying "all data relevant to fighting fires" (which, while better defined, is still a minefield due to state secrets), but the final line makes it a requirement on non-wa nation who wish to participate in the program. Assuming of course that you take the misspelling of "date" as "data".3). Instructs the WA Disaster Board to study and to distribute as appropriate information about fire hazards and fire-control methods; urges member nations to share all relevant data that they possess with the WADB; and offers this service to any non-WA nations that are interested (and are willing to pay reasonable fees, share their relevant date with the WADB, and meet clause #1’s terms to the same extent that would be necessary if they were WA members) too.
All in all, this resolution is heavily flawed. Filled with typos and I think is unneeded. I recommend a vote against.
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"Follow your arrow wherever it points." - Kacey Musgraves, "Follow Your Arrow"
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