CCA: Joshua Ravenclaw and Treize Dreizehn; Defamation

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CCA: Joshua Ravenclaw and Treize Dreizehn; Defamation

Post by Treize Dreizehn »

*ahem*

I am speaking in this post as defense counsel for Treize Dreizehn.
It is my duty to inform you that Cameron Romefeller has brought charges of defamation against Pharaoh Joshua Ravenclaw and Scribe of Ma'at Treize Dreizehn.
My client has not committed any such defamation, and the plaintiffs refusal to post any evidence, and indeed commitment to "fake evidence just to prove it" is a clear and deliberate slap at the justice system of Osiris.

These charges are obviously baseless and unfounded, as indicated by the plaintiffs inability to find even a shred of actual evidence to support them.

At no point did my client personally publish any claims against Cameron Romefeller's character. The standard for defamation in this region is, however, quite stringent:
(a) "Defamation" is defined as any attempt to publicly attack the character of a citizen or foreign guest of the Osiris Fraternal Order with unsubstantiated or imaginary claims, with the malicious intent to cause serious damage to the reputation of that individual.
My client's entire involvement in any sort of public comment was to provide logs to the executive detailing a security threat. My client was not the one who published the charges, nor has he made any public claims on the character of Cameron Romefeller. And even if he had, such claims, being based on the logs at the root of this matter, would be neither unsubstantiated nor imaginary.

I would like to ask the court to consider any faked evidence as defamation, and request that the Scribe of Seshat react accordingly.
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CCA: Joshua Ravenclaw and Treize Dreizehn; Defamation

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Any Priests of Seshat who falsify evidence will face disciplinary measures from my office (and from the Pharaoh, if necessary).
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CCA: Joshua Ravenclaw and Treize Dreizehn; Defamation

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I caution the counsel for the prosecution to tread carefully, there is a certain standard of conduct and dignity this Court expects from all its parties, particularly so for the very agents tasked with the furtherance of justice.

Again, the prosecution is ordered to present evidence it feels necessary for the case.
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CCA: Joshua Ravenclaw and Treize Dreizehn; Defamation

Post by Zaolat »

We have none, and unfortunately we cannot fake evidence.
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Avakael wrote:If the UDL is an NGO, then the LKE is very clearly conducting a war on terrorism. Terrorism perpetuated by the United Defenders League, lead by a man who has shaped his organization to have a culture of wishing to wear tights, live in forests, and possibly even dress up as furries, something which only Todd McCloud may do. I believe this war, therefore, should not be a matter of raiding and defending. It's a matter of moral decency. Don't wear tights. Don't live in forests. Don't dress up and roleplay as animals. It's wrong, and the LKE is taking the initiative to exterminate this horrible organization.
<+Zaolat> you know I hear if a man eats lots of pineapples and it's juice good things happen
<+Xoriet> :D
<+Xoriet> Awesome
<@Venico> Sigged
<+Xoriet> VENICO
<+Zeorus> XD
<@Venico> Xoriet! <3
<+Xoriet> I meant Nox's Nether Faerie Dragon ;x;
<@Venico> Uh huh, Sure
<+Xoriet> I didn't even see Zao's thing
<+Xoriet> ;x;
<+Xoriet> I hate you all
<@Venico> Nope
<@Venico> That's copyright
<@Venico> Night Father TM
<@Treize_Dreizehn> <Xoriet> I didn't even see Zao's thing <--- That's what she said.
<@Treize_Dreizehn> my work here is done
<@Venico> Did the pineapple improve it Xoriet?
<+Xoriet> Now I really hold deep loathing for all of you ={
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CCA: Joshua Ravenclaw and Treize Dreizehn; Defamation

Post by Theoden Sebastian »

Faking of evidence is surely beyond question. It will not be entertained by this Court.

Counsel for the Prosecution, have you communicated this with your client, the lack of evidence I mean?
Former Chief Elder of the Pschent and Former Councilor of Osiris
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His Imperial and Royal Majesty, Konig of the Kingdom of Prussia
His Supreme Highness, the Crown Prince of the LKE
Chief of the Imperial General Staff, LKE
Governor-General of Niso
Administrator of Balder

Past Positions:

Former Prime Minister, LKE
Former Senator and Speaker of the Estates Common, LKE
Former Secretary of State for the Interior, Colonies, LKE
Former Director-General of the Imperial Intelligence Agency, LKE
Former Reich Elector, Deputy Reich Chancellor, Home Secretary, WAD, Reichstag Delegate, Head of the Imperial Diplomatic Corps, Immigration Service, TNI
Former Senator and Minister of Foreign Affairs, Kantrias
Former Minister of Foreign Affairs, EoE, Exshaw
Former Senator, Markarth
Former Member of the Emerald Council, Lazarus
Former Deputy Joint Commander, UIAF
Duke of Armagh, KNI
The Duke of Gloucester and Cumberland; Marquess of Albany in KGB
Director-General of the Secret Intelligence Service, KGB
The Deputy Lord President of the Privy Council and Lord Privy Seal, KGB
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CCA: Joshua Ravenclaw and Treize Dreizehn; Defamation

Post by Durkadurkiranistan II »

Your honor,

The defense agrees with the prosecution that there is no evidence against my client. Indeed, logs exist that show my client did not defame Mr Romefeller. The claims against Cammy were neither unsubstantiated nor imaginary, nor is malicious intent demonstrable. The defense seeks to demonstrate the, to be frank, farcical nature of the charges against my client.
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CCA: Joshua Ravenclaw and Treize Dreizehn; Defamation

Post by Zaolat »

My client states the logs as his evidence which led to his entrapment and thus his defamation. That's the only thing resembling evidence he said to me over private conversation.
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Avakael wrote:If the UDL is an NGO, then the LKE is very clearly conducting a war on terrorism. Terrorism perpetuated by the United Defenders League, lead by a man who has shaped his organization to have a culture of wishing to wear tights, live in forests, and possibly even dress up as furries, something which only Todd McCloud may do. I believe this war, therefore, should not be a matter of raiding and defending. It's a matter of moral decency. Don't wear tights. Don't live in forests. Don't dress up and roleplay as animals. It's wrong, and the LKE is taking the initiative to exterminate this horrible organization.
<+Zaolat> you know I hear if a man eats lots of pineapples and it's juice good things happen
<+Xoriet> :D
<+Xoriet> Awesome
<@Venico> Sigged
<+Xoriet> VENICO
<+Zeorus> XD
<@Venico> Xoriet! <3
<+Xoriet> I meant Nox's Nether Faerie Dragon ;x;
<@Venico> Uh huh, Sure
<+Xoriet> I didn't even see Zao's thing
<+Xoriet> ;x;
<+Xoriet> I hate you all
<@Venico> Nope
<@Venico> That's copyright
<@Venico> Night Father TM
<@Treize_Dreizehn> <Xoriet> I didn't even see Zao's thing <--- That's what she said.
<@Treize_Dreizehn> my work here is done
<@Venico> Did the pineapple improve it Xoriet?
<+Xoriet> Now I really hold deep loathing for all of you ={
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CCA: Joshua Ravenclaw and Treize Dreizehn; Defamation

Post by Theoden Sebastian »

Where are the logs you speak of, counsel? As of current, there is no way for us to determine even the slightest suggestion of possibility of the charges your client have brought before this Court.
Former Chief Elder of the Pschent and Former Councilor of Osiris
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His Imperial and Royal Majesty, Konig of the Kingdom of Prussia
His Supreme Highness, the Crown Prince of the LKE
Chief of the Imperial General Staff, LKE
Governor-General of Niso
Administrator of Balder

Past Positions:

Former Prime Minister, LKE
Former Senator and Speaker of the Estates Common, LKE
Former Secretary of State for the Interior, Colonies, LKE
Former Director-General of the Imperial Intelligence Agency, LKE
Former Reich Elector, Deputy Reich Chancellor, Home Secretary, WAD, Reichstag Delegate, Head of the Imperial Diplomatic Corps, Immigration Service, TNI
Former Senator and Minister of Foreign Affairs, Kantrias
Former Minister of Foreign Affairs, EoE, Exshaw
Former Senator, Markarth
Former Member of the Emerald Council, Lazarus
Former Deputy Joint Commander, UIAF
Duke of Armagh, KNI
The Duke of Gloucester and Cumberland; Marquess of Albany in KGB
Director-General of the Secret Intelligence Service, KGB
The Deputy Lord President of the Privy Council and Lord Privy Seal, KGB
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CCA: Joshua Ravenclaw and Treize Dreizehn; Defamation

Post by Zaolat »

The ones originally posted before this, Zeorus gave me the link, but I closed it out and don't recall where it is.
Zaolat
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Avakael wrote:If the UDL is an NGO, then the LKE is very clearly conducting a war on terrorism. Terrorism perpetuated by the United Defenders League, lead by a man who has shaped his organization to have a culture of wishing to wear tights, live in forests, and possibly even dress up as furries, something which only Todd McCloud may do. I believe this war, therefore, should not be a matter of raiding and defending. It's a matter of moral decency. Don't wear tights. Don't live in forests. Don't dress up and roleplay as animals. It's wrong, and the LKE is taking the initiative to exterminate this horrible organization.
<+Zaolat> you know I hear if a man eats lots of pineapples and it's juice good things happen
<+Xoriet> :D
<+Xoriet> Awesome
<@Venico> Sigged
<+Xoriet> VENICO
<+Zeorus> XD
<@Venico> Xoriet! <3
<+Xoriet> I meant Nox's Nether Faerie Dragon ;x;
<@Venico> Uh huh, Sure
<+Xoriet> I didn't even see Zao's thing
<+Xoriet> ;x;
<+Xoriet> I hate you all
<@Venico> Nope
<@Venico> That's copyright
<@Venico> Night Father TM
<@Treize_Dreizehn> <Xoriet> I didn't even see Zao's thing <--- That's what she said.
<@Treize_Dreizehn> my work here is done
<@Venico> Did the pineapple improve it Xoriet?
<+Xoriet> Now I really hold deep loathing for all of you ={
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CCA: Joshua Ravenclaw and Treize Dreizehn; Defamation

Post by Theoden Sebastian »

Can they be recovered, counsel?
Former Chief Elder of the Pschent and Former Councilor of Osiris
Spoiler
His Imperial and Royal Majesty, Konig of the Kingdom of Prussia
His Supreme Highness, the Crown Prince of the LKE
Chief of the Imperial General Staff, LKE
Governor-General of Niso
Administrator of Balder

Past Positions:

Former Prime Minister, LKE
Former Senator and Speaker of the Estates Common, LKE
Former Secretary of State for the Interior, Colonies, LKE
Former Director-General of the Imperial Intelligence Agency, LKE
Former Reich Elector, Deputy Reich Chancellor, Home Secretary, WAD, Reichstag Delegate, Head of the Imperial Diplomatic Corps, Immigration Service, TNI
Former Senator and Minister of Foreign Affairs, Kantrias
Former Minister of Foreign Affairs, EoE, Exshaw
Former Senator, Markarth
Former Member of the Emerald Council, Lazarus
Former Deputy Joint Commander, UIAF
Duke of Armagh, KNI
The Duke of Gloucester and Cumberland; Marquess of Albany in KGB
Director-General of the Secret Intelligence Service, KGB
The Deputy Lord President of the Privy Council and Lord Privy Seal, KGB
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