[00:44:40] Josh (Raven): He left because someone decided to start insinuating he had bodies buried somewhere.
[00:44:54] Josh (Raven): Given that I pulled him out of his NS grave last year, that isn't the case.
[00:44:56] Revall: He is better off then he deserves better.
[00:45:11] Josh (Raven): But I told him to leave Osiris, because he has been suffering horribly in this region.
[00:45:35] Yuno: really? D:
[00:45:37] Josh (Raven): And I am not sitting idly by while someone I care about goes through emotional blackmail from a fully grown adult who should know better.
[00:45:41] Josh (Raven): Yes.
[00:47:31] Josh (Raven): It's not on.
[00:47:38] Cormac: "Emotional blackmail."
[00:47:42] Josh (Raven): This has gone beyond politics.
[00:47:49] Revall: It really has.
[00:47:57 | Edited 00:48:01] Josh (Raven): That screenshot I received wasn't politics, Cormac.
[00:48:12] Cormac: Did the screenshot include him messaging me first, moaning about the state of Osiris?
[00:48:16] Cormac: I didn't message him.
[00:48:21] Josh (Raven): what?
[00:48:34] Josh (Raven): This is a screenshot I received from Ben by way of Whale
[00:48:42] Josh (Raven): nothing to do with you dude
[00:49:19] Cormac: Ah, in that case I have absolutely no idea what/who you're talking about.
[00:49:34] Cormac: I thought I was being accused of emotional blackmail for the conversation I just had with him.
[00:49:38] Josh (Raven): Nope
[00:49:43] Josh (Raven): You're not the type
[00:50:05] Cormac: Was it Syl?
[00:50:25] Josh (Raven): Aye. He believes that Ben has wrapped me around his little finger and is using me as a benefactor.
[00:50:42] Josh (Raven): This is not the first time I've seen him say as much - or hint as much.
[00:51:18 | Edited 00:51:19] Josh (Raven): But to make it clear for everyone: I felt that Shadoke left Osiris back then too hastily, and felt that he should have had a trial to defend himself, that he had gotten the unfair end of the stick.
[00:51:55 | Edited 00:52:01] Josh (Raven): I take security very seriously, I loathe forum destruction of any kind, but he was a fourteen year old out of his depth in an environment that is fucking stupid at times.
[00:52:01] Yuno: o.o
[00:52:10] Cormac: Many forum destroyers are quite young actually.
[00:52:25] Cormac: And are punished as severely as Shadoke was, if not moreso.
[00:52:32] Josh (Raven): So I sought him out to make sure he was alright, to try and give him a chance to move on, and become someone better than what he was.
[00:52:35] Yuno: shadoke did nothing wrong
[00:52:42] Josh (Raven): He did, Yuno.
[00:52:44] Yuno: ?!
[00:52:46] Yuno: i wasn't looking
[00:52:52] Cormac: Well that's not true. He did nothing wrong right now, but at the time he destroyed a forum.
[00:53:00] Josh (Raven): He facilitated someone's access to delete a forum.
[00:53:05] Cormac: Though that isn't relevant anymore. People have been pardoned for that.
[00:53:07] Yuno: the fuck?!
[00:53:12] Yuno: when was this
[00:53:19] Josh (Raven): Last year, at the start of.
[00:53:24] Yuno: last year.
[00:53:25] Yuno: ok.
[00:53:29] Yuno: -exhales-
[00:53:32] Josh (Raven): But it's relevant to why Syl feels Ben is controlling me.
[00:53:34] Josh (Raven): Of a sort.
[00:53:44] Josh (Raven): And while he restored it, it was done. He fled Osiris believing that he wouldn't get a fair trial.
[00:53:54] Josh (Raven): Thus opened himself to being PNG by the Deshret.
[00:54:02] Josh (Raven): Not a wise move.
[00:54:24] Josh (Raven): Either way, he worked hard to clear his name after that - and I gave him command of Alexandria's fledgling military.
[00:54:57] Josh (Raven): Eventually he also joined my NS House in Alexandria - hence the surname.
[00:55:22] Josh (Raven): He left some organisations and regions for his position in Alexandria, then.
[00:55:31] Josh (Raven): I required he leave DEN and any other militaries.
[00:55:51 | Edited 00:55:52] Josh (Raven): So there are no bodies, that Syl claims, to be revealled.
[00:56:09] Josh (Raven): I reached out because he didn't get a trial in Osiris.
[00:56:26] Josh (Raven): If anything, surely I'd be the one controlling him, and not the other way around?
[00:56:31] Jakker: On 4/16/16, at 7:55 PM, Josh (Raven) wrote:
> So there are no bodies, that Syl claims, to be revealled.
or revalled
[00:56:39] Josh (Raven): quite.
