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Treaty of the Old Gods (Osiris-Balder)

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:43 am
by Lord Ravenclaw
The King of Balder and I have been in contact over reconfirming the Balder-Osiris alliance and becoming a joint Imperialist power in our own right.

My time is limited to write about this, and I would invite you to read the treaty and judge it on its merits.
Current Draft wrote:The Treaty of the Old Gods

Preamble

We, the Realm of Balder and the Osiris Fraternal Order, hereinafter referred to jointly as "the signatories", in the interest of continued stability and prolonged friendship hereby enter into this Treaty to ensure the safe and continuous development of our parallel states. Additionally we also hereby establish the joint Balder and Osiris Armed Forces, herein referred to as the Imperial Sovereign Realms Army (ISRA), to work together to ensure the security of our realms and to advance the cause of Imperialism where mutually beneficial to each of our Sovereign Realms.

Article I: Non-Aggression Between Signatories

i). The signatories shall recognize the constitutional governments in force at the time of ratification of this treaty, and any legally enacted successor governments, as the sole legitimate governments of their respective regions.

ii). The signatories shall not undermine one another's security, regional identity, regional government, or sovereignty through subterfuge, espionage, invasion, or any other means.

Article II: Cooperation Between Signatories

i). The signatories shall defend one another against attack, either internal or external, with all available diplomatic and military resources at the request of the other signatory.

ii). The signatories shall share any intelligence relating to the security of one another including information relating to both regional and forum security.

iii). The signatories shall cooperate in the organizing and hosting of diplomatic and cultural events.

iv). The signatories shall cooperate on military initiatives including offensive and defensive missions.

Article III: Collaboration Between Signatories

i). The signatories shall collaborate militarily, through the implementation of centrally commanded armed forces as outlined in Article IV.

ii). The signatories shall collaborate on security and intelligence matters through the appointment of a Joint Director of Intelligence by the Pharaoh of Osiris and Monarch of Balder, to work sub rosa, under relevant regional laws.

iii). The signatories shall collaborate on cultural and diplomatic matters through a monthly scheduled meeting between regional Cabinets to be hosted on a rotational basis, with the additional ability of either signatory to call an Emergency Meeting with invitees determined by the Pharaoh of Osiris and the Monarch of Balder.

iv). The signatories shall collaborate on the above when appropriate with each other's shared allies.

Article IV: The Imperial Sovereign Realms Army

i). The Balder Jomsvikings and the Sekhmet Legion of Osiris shall be commanded by the Joint Commander of ISRA.

ii). The Joint Commander shall be empowered to organise the internal structure of the ISRA as they wish, and shall direct all military actions, unless delegated to a subordinate officer.

iii). The Joint Commander shall be jointly nominated by the Pharaoh of Osiris and the Monarch of Balder. The legislative bodies of the Riksdag and the Deshret shall then each confirm the nominee according to each legislative body's procedures.

iv). The Joint Commander shall be accountable to both the Pharaoh of Osiris and the Monarch of Balder, both of whom shall be consulted on matters of direction of the ISRA. The Pharaoh of Osiris and Monarch of Balder, as Commanders-in-Chief of each of their respective Armed Forces, each retain an individual veto over appointments and operations within the ISRA made by the Joint Commander or their subordinates. The Joint Commander may be dismissed by the joint agreement of the Pharaoh of Osiris and the Monarch of Balder.

v). Osiris and Balder shall retain control of the recruitment of new members to the ISRA within their own regions, though decisions on approval of individuals may be vetoed by the Joint Commander.

vi). Upon the ratification of this treaty in Balder, the Monarch of Balder shall delegate responsibility for strategy, organisation, regulation and command of the Jomsvikings to the Joint Commander of the ISRA for the duration of this treaty's existence. This delegation shall not affect the Jomsviking's ability to undertake independent operations under alternative command arrangements.

vii). Upon the ratification of this treaty in Osiris, the Pharaoh of Osiris shall delegate responsibility for strategy, organisation, regulation and command of the Sekhmet Legion to the Joint Commander of the ISRA for the duration of this treaty's existence. This delegation shall not affect the Legion's ability to undertake independent operations under alternative command arrangements.
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The Treaty of the Old Gods

Preamble

We, the Realm of Balder and the Osiris Fraternal Order, in the interest of continued stability and prolonged friendship hereby enter into this Treaty to ensure the safe and continuous development of our parallel states. Additionally we also hereby establish the joint Balder and Osiris Armed Forces, herein referred to as the Imperial Sovereign Realms Army (ISRA), to work together to ensure the security of our realms and to advance the cause of military Imperialism where mutually beneficial to each of our Sovereign Realms.

Article I: Non-Aggression Between Signatories

i). The parties will recognize the constitutional governments in force at the time of ratification of this treaty, and any legally enacted successor governments, as the sole legitimate governments of their respective regions and will not undermine or attempt to overthrow the other's regional government.

ii). The parties will not undermine one another's security, regional identity, or sovereignty through subterfuge, espionage, invasion, or any other means.

Article II: Cooperation Between Signatories

i). The parties will defend one another against attack, either internal or external, with all available diplomatic and military resources at the request of the other party's legitimate government.

ii). The signatories agree to share any intelligence relating to the security of the other party including information relating to both regional and forum security.

iii). The signatories agree to cooperate in the organizing and hosting of diplomatic and cultural events.

iv). The signatories will cooperate on military initiatives including offensive and defensive missions.

Article III: Collaboration Between Signatories

i). The signatories agree to collaborate militarily with the goal of improving regional security and advancing the cause of each Realm, through the implementation of centrally commanded armed forces as outlined in Article IV, in order to increase operational effectiveness and efficiency.

ii). The signatories will collaborate on security and intelligence matters with the goal of preventing external subterfuge and espionage which may damage regional identity or impede sovereignty, through the appointment of a Joint Director of Intelligence by the Pharaoh of Osiris and Monarch of Balder, to work sub rosa, under relevant regional laws.

iii). The signatories will collaborate on cultural and diplomatic matters through a monthly scheduled meeting between regional Cabinets to be hosted on a rotational basis, with the additional ability of either signatories to call an Emergency Meeting with invitees determined by the Pharaoh of Osiris and the Monarch of Balder.

iv). The signatories shall collaborate on all the above together, and also when appropriate with each other's allies, specifically with shared allies of whom both signatories enjoy successful relations.

Article IV: The Imperial Sovereign Realms Army

i). The Balder Jomsvikings and the Sekhmet Legion of Osiris shall from now on be commanded by the Joint Commander of ISRA.

ii). The Joint Commander shall be empowered to organise the internal structure of the ISRA as they wish, and shall direct all military actions, unless delegated to a subordinate officer.

iii). The Joint Commander shall be jointly nominated by the Pharaoh of Osiris and the Monarch of Balder. The legislative bodies of the Riksdag and the Deshret shall then each confirm the nominee according to each legislative body's procedures.

iv). The Joint Commander shall be accountable to both the Pharaoh of Osiris and the Monarch of Balder, both of whom shall be consulted on matters of direction of the ISRA. The Pharaoh of Osiris and Monarch of Balder, as Commanders-in-Chief of each of their respective Armed Forces, each retain an individual veto over appointments and operations within the ISRA made by the Joint Commander or their subordinates. The Joint Commander may be dismissed by the joint agreement of the Pharaoh of Osiris and the Monarch of Balder.

v). Osiris and Balder shall retain control of the recruitment of new recruits to the ISRA within their own regions, though decisions on approval of individuals may be vetoed by the Joint Commander.

vi). Upon the ratification of this treaty in Balder, the Monarch shall delegate responsibility for strategy, organisation, regulation and command of the Jomsvikings to the Joint Commander of the ISRA for the duration of this treaty's existence. This delegation shall not affect the Jomsviking's ability to undertake independent operations under alternative command arrangements.

vii). Upon the ratification of this treaty in Osiris, the Pharaoh shall delegate responsibility for strategy, organisation, regulation and command of the Sekhmet Legion to the Joint Commander of the ISRA for the duration of this treaty's existence. This delegation shall not affect the Legion's ability to undertake independent operations under alternative command arrangements.

Treaty of the Old Gods (Osiris-Balder)

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:39 am
by Rach
I support this obviously.

Treaty of the Old Gods (Osiris-Balder)

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:32 am
by Severisen Montresor
Fullest support.

Treaty of the Old Gods (Osiris-Balder)

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:45 pm
by War Wombat
Cautiously supportive. What is the ISRA going to be like? If it is going to be a big organization like the UIAF, I am skeptical as to whether our logistics can handle that.

Treaty of the Old Gods (Osiris-Balder)

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:05 pm
by Feuer Ritter
Good to hear this, I'm also curious to see how this is going work.

Treaty of the Old Gods (Osiris-Balder)

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:42 am
by Cormac
I helped with the drafting of this as well, and obviously I support it.

Treaty of the Old Gods (Osiris-Balder)

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:52 am
by Charles Cerebella
Obviously support as well.

I imagine it will work in a similar way to the UIAF with the two existing militaries forming more or less two regiments within the larger whole. It is best to keep the regional troops and commands in their home regions rather than setting up something different on a new forum to give commands given soldiers will be less likely to check that promptly. Of course, exact structure will be up to the Joint Commander but logistically it shouldn't too much different below command and strategy level than what exists currently.

Treaty of the Old Gods (Osiris-Balder)

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:15 pm
by North East Somerset
Got some minor technical amendments before we go to vote, will post final version tomorrow.

Regarding WW's comment about whether our logistics can "handle" ISRA - I would highlight that one of the major advantages in combining our military's is efficiency in the command structure. A combined military actually helps our logistics.

Treaty of the Old Gods (Osiris-Balder)

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:45 pm
by r3naissanc3r
I am also in support.

Treaty of the Old Gods (Osiris-Balder)

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:47 pm
by War Wombat
Yes, that makes some sense. The problem, though, is that Osiris and Balder are not (unlike many members of the UIAF) primarily constructed of individuals dedicated to military gameplay, so I do not know that we would have the military activity levels/numbers necessary to be classified as a world power. That said, this treaty is a good idea, so long as the joint commander is an experienced commander.