Osiris Fraternal Order

Cormac wrote:Aside from this, it has come to my attention that North East Somerset -- the dear saint that I ejected and banned after my resignation, prompting Treize Dreizehn to force me out of the Delegacy -- has pressured at least one other candidate to withdraw from the race because he's afraid a split vote will lead to your electoral victory. If North East Somerset and people like him don't want you as Pharaoh, that is an indication to me that the rest of us, who actually care about Osiris, should at minimum be giving you serious consideration. They don't want you as Pharaoh because they see you as the most difficult to manipulate, and they have now been manipulating Osiris, primarily through her Pharaohs, for over a year.

Absolute and unmitigated rubbish. A completely unfounded nonsense allegation designed to fabricate a narrative that is simply, made up.

Honestly this is the biggest load of bullshit I have read for some time. Firstly the passive aggressive notion that you did the right thing by "ejecting and banning me" after your resignation is outrageous.

But secondly, I've spoken to 1, just 1 electoral candidate for the Pharaohship. My involvement in this race is minimal, I've paid it very little attention. I told the one candidate I spoke to, Vac, that I didn't think he had a chance to win. After all he just lost the Speaker election by a landslide, so why would he stand a chance in this? He said he didn't mind who won as long as it wasn't Tim, and I said that in all likelihood all his candidacy was doing was splitting the voters who would likely not vote for Tim.

This is all a personal political opinion, from years of experience in NS politics, not some kind of international conspiracy. Manipulation? Don't be ridiculous. People like you make Osiran politics most unpleasant.

You can twist things, you can create political controversy - fine. But this is just pure slander.

Cormac wrote:Tim, I've decided to vote for you. I would never have guessed before nominations started that you would be a serious candidate, let alone that I would also be voting for you, so I'm going to briefly -- which means, probably not briefly -- explain my reasoning for others' consideration. This can, essentially, be taken as an endorsement.

Anyone with half an ounce of common sense knows you were in all likelihood always going to vote for Tim, right from the beginning. Only the really stupid or naive are going to believe this is a decision you've "come to" - it was an inevitability.

Tim, you've made a habit of making joke campaigns and this one is quite serious. That's refreshing.

We've known each other for a long time, on both sides of the fence. Do you feel your position as the Commander in Chief of Osiris forces, as well as being the leader of SDF will come into conflict? How will you manage that conflict of interest if it arises?

Furthermore, do you think Osiris will elect someone who is a defender? Admittedly that's an odd question coming from me, but when I was elected, I was not defender leaning in the least.

Who are your role models for leadership in NS? In RL?

NES, as you've admitted on IRC, you spoke with Vac about this candidly and have now chosen to not so candidly reveal that detail about him. How lovely, and I'm sure he definitely appreciates that. Whatever, not my concern. However, if you could please take your conflict with Cormac's statement to somewhere else that would be great. That argument looks like a powder keg ready to blow, and I'd rather this thread stay as my campaign thread rather than an argument between you and Cormac. Now, since you're also choosing to openly criticize Ridersyl on IRC regarding his campaign and telling him he has no chance to win, something I'd find beyond rude regardless of who you're saying it to, I'm politely asking you to please refrain from being in this thread as I'd like for it to focus on a positive future of Osiris rather than the negativity and mudslinging that have sent so many other regions into turmoil. I'd appreciate it you'd honor that, but won't be surprised if you don't. I'd like to apologize to all the candidates that NES may be slandering, especially those he's slandering by bringing RL into it, for his actions, as I doubt he will. Hopefully we may be able to put aside all this strife and conflict after this election and proceed into the new year with prosperity and a unified community.

For the record, recieving Cormac's support in this election was extremely unexpected for me. My reputation, as has been established by many people in this thread, is one of joke campaigns and generally messing about on IRC. The fact is, I think that all the candidates running in this election are beyond qualified to serve Osiris in the office of Pharaoh and Cormac's support could have gone to any of them. To be honest, I was expecting his support to go to either Andrew or Syl, so seeing it was beyond shocking.

Severisen, thank you for your questions! I'll answer them as soon as Tottenham Hotspur v. Chelsea ends, in about 45 minutes. I felt like I had to post the NES thing now, while my emotions were still charged so I could be as honest as possible.

Severisen Montresor wrote:Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:48 pmTim, you've made a habit of making joke campaigns and this one is quite serious. That's refreshing.

We've known each other for a long time, on both sides of the fence. Do you feel your position as the Commander in Chief of Osiris forces, as well as being the leader of SDF will come into conflict? How will you manage that conflict of interest if it arises?

Furthermore, do you think Osiris will elect someone who is a defender? Admittedly that's an odd question coming from me, but when I was elected, I was not defender leaning in the least.

Who are your role models for leadership in NS? In RL?

Yeah, it's quite refreshing for me too. However, also weird to be serious about something, but I'm sure I'll figure out what this tingling feeling of responsibility is in due time.

1. That's obviously a critical topic to discuss, as I am currently the Minister of Defense over in Spiritus, as well as a General in the Spiritus Defense Force. Being Commander-in-Chief of the Legion certainly doesn't go well with that. Due to this, if elected as Pharaoh of Osiris I would be stepping down from the position of Minister of Defense in Spiritus to prevent the potential conflict of interest that could arise from such a situation. Furthermore, I would announce a Leave of Absence from the Spiritus Defense Force for the duration of my Delegacy, so that I may have no operational input on how the Spiritus Defense Force runs its operations. We've got a very good crew of lads there, so they should be able to thrive more than effectively without my presence.

2. Frankly, I don't know the answer to that but I hope this election will prove that it will. I think that the constant polarization between the two sides doesn't do much to help Gameplay or the unification of communities that may have people from both spectrum, and I hope that in the future we may not be so polarized. Of course there are people who take a moral stance against raiding, but I still think it should be more than easy to be able to have amiable coordination outside of update. Given the fact that I prefer being a Defender due to the fact that I just find it more fun and align better with the people there, rather than seeing R/D as a moral crusade, I would hope there is not too much issue affiliated with my ideology. If elected Pharaoh, my attention would be to Osiris, her interests, and her success. I think my platform outlines that I'm more than willing to have the Sekhmet Legion performing raids, and I'm not one for hiding my intent. As Pharaoh, I would have a vested interest in the Sekhmet Legion's success as it would be an effective way to show Osiran Strength abroad, grant me a successful term as Pharaoh, and help Osiris achieve the glory that it deserves. There's nothing more to it. I think one can easily put aside personal views for the benefit of the region, as I plan to do.

3. Damn, I had to think about this one for a while. Alright, in Nationstates it would be Severisen, Eluvatar, and Nordic Arbor. Severisen's term as Pharaoh was marked with success, and I found that he dealt with situations in a very calm and sensible manner. There was some drama, but I think that Sev's term was what really told the world that the Osiris Fraternal Order was a stable regime and was here to stay. I personally found that pretty exciting, as Gameplay is definitely a tough group to convince. I'd like to be able to take that same level-headedness and effectiveness and make the OFO not just here to stay but a dominant GCR power. Eluvatar, then, I've found is a player who's always been able to be very effective at playing both sides of the game without too much controversy (sans UDL incident). His involvement in The North Pacific is more than commendable, especially his involvement and dedication to the North Pacific Army, a group that certainly does more than Defend. I think that, past that, he's just always very level headed while also managing to be super snarky when he feels like it and I find that awesome. Finally, Nordic Arbor was my close partner-in-crime over in Grand Central, who probably nobody here but Bob Moran, Ridersyl, and maybe ZYX know . He always made his best effort to play the game fairly, and make sure everyone was having fun and people weren't being marginalized and such. He was usually the person that'd call me out for being too authoritarian and such, and I've always admired the character he exemplified in the game, while still having fun.

In Real Life, I honestly don't know. I try not to set role models for myself, as I know what realistic expectations of myself are and what I can achieve. Living up to the standards I'd set myself if I were trying to model the people I look up to just wouldn't work. Therefore, I don't think I actually have a Real Life role model. Sorry if that's a shit answer to that question, but I really can't think of one.

Thank you for your answers.

NES:

Tim, best of luck again.

Best of luck, Tim. I told you personally that I believed you were the frontrunner in the election, and I still believe that. The people of Osiris will decide, of course, but you've run an extremely strong campaign and I applaud you for it.

Thank you, Syl, seriously. While I still disagree with that belief, and think it's a toss-up election, your thoughts are yours to have.
Your campaign has been quite great as well, and very professional! Best of luck to you!

NES:

You can laugh all you want Cormac, but you are the liar here. Firstly implicating me in "coup" attempts to try and discredit me, and then also this nonsense.

I haven't pressured anyone to withdraw from the race, I merely analysed the political situation of the elections pointing out to Vac that the likely outcome of this electoral landscape in FPTP is Tim winning. Which he said he didn't want. The only candidate with enough credibility to seriously challenge Tim is Andrew, but he can't possibly win with so many potential votes being split off for candidates who aren't serious challengers. Of course Tim would want them to remain in the race. It's not rocket science.

That's all there is to it.

North East Somerset wrote:Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:36 pm

NES:

You can laugh all you want Cormac, but you are the liar here. Firstly implicating me in "coup" attempts to try and discredit me, and then also this nonsense.

I haven't pressured anyone to withdraw from the race, I merely analysed the political situation of the elections pointing out to Vac that the likely outcome of this electoral landscape in FPTP is Tim winning. Which he said he didn't want. The only candidate with enough credibility to seriously challenge Tim is Andrew, but he can't possibly win with so many potential votes being split off for candidates who aren't serious challengers. Of course Tim would want them to remain in the race. It's not rocket science.

That's all there is to it.

If you really feel the need to continue this, I'm happy to do it here. I will not do it here, in Tim's campaign thread.