Osiris Fraternal Order

Cormac wrote:Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:22 amI will be an unequivocal Nay vote if this legislation goes to vote with the amendment to Article I, Section 3(4) of the Scroll of Ma'at still in place. We absolutely cannot go back to a situation in which we are once again so hamstrung in dealing with threats to our security that the Pharaoh is forced to take extralegal action to address the situation. It's like a bad NS version of Groundhog Day in this region. We do silly things with our legislation, there is a coup to fix them, and then we do the exact same silly things and expect a different result. How many coups are we going to have to have before people stop legislating the same restrictions that always, always lead to problems? We need to be able to deal with security threats. Full stop. We need to stop playing Liberal Democracy and start playing NationStates.

We shouldn't even have a criminal code or a court. There, I said it. We were fine without one. No, we weren't just fine without one, we were better without one. Threats were dealt with quickly and efficiently, with minimal drama to the community because the threats weren't allowed to sit around for weeks flamethrowing and doing everything they could to either avoid the consequences of their actions or do as much damage as they could to the community on their way out. Why you folks wanted to replace that quick and efficient system with a slow, clunky, dysfunctional system -- which is how every NS judicial system turns out -- is beyond me, and why you want to now go even further and place the security of Osiris totally in the hands of that system is just mind boggling. Literally, can you not? Thanks a bunch.

Wymondham wrote:Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:11 amHow about removing the Article I, Section 3(4) amendment?

Cormac wrote:Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:50 am

Wymondham wrote:Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:11 amHow about removing the Article I, Section 3(4) amendment?

I can live with it with that removed, yes.

Tiber Septim wrote:Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:01 pmHold on:
"Section 6: Sentencing

1. The Pharaoh, Chief Vizier or a designated deputy will detail recommended sentences when prosecuting criminal offenses before the Council of Priests, according to the procedure established by the Council of Priests."

Why don't you just create an Attorney General?
We could make sure they aren't a political appointment and make them an elected official.

That way you would have an independent body .

Tiber Septim wrote:Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:59 pmAlright.
I motion to move forward with the current layout.