Cormac vs. NES

[Seker]

Actually, generally speaking, things go better in Osiris when people get their grievances out in the open rather than leaving them on a slow simmer to eventually boil over when nobody's checking the pot. The divisions won't disappear just because we shut up about them.

Very true.

This is why Festivus is the regional holiday of Osiris. The Airing of Grievances is essential to the health of the community.

Now fight me.

[North East Somerset]

Actually, generally speaking, things go better in Osiris when people get their grievances out in the open rather than leaving them on a slow simmer to eventually boil over when nobody's checking the pot. The divisions won't disappear just because we shut up about them.

But, that said, I've said all I have to say so unless NES has anything to add, I'm good.

Hear hear.

Couldn't agree more.

I might add something at some point, but can't think of anything offhand.

[North East Somerset]

Okay, I'm going to take up that placemat, to point out that for the 3rd time in less than a week, Cormac has kicked me from #osi, the latter two times after *he* chose to confront me over my opinions on government policy.

This is the most clear cut case of blatantly silencing perfectly reasonable debate, not that the last time was reasonable at all either.

In essence, Cormac was boasting that UK has supported his anti-Ainur campaign, and then it was pointed out that Leo, a member of the UK Royal family is a notorious porn spammer and forum deleter.

The fact is, the Cormac driven anti-forum deletion policy is rapidly being exposed as a totally unviable and hypocritical joke. It's not anti-Osiran to be against a stupid policy.

What's anti-Osiran is clamping down on free speech, which on IRC is rapidly becoming a reality. I hope that doesn't become the case here too.

The convo for the record:

8:39:54 PMCormac NES, I'm not the author of this policy. My entire input into it consisted of "Looks good to me."
8:40:03 PMCormac It'd be great if the slander could stop now.
8:40:26 PM wra pokes Rach
8:40:38 PMRach yes?
8:42:16 PMNES It just seems like a very Cormac thing to do.
8:42:41 PMNES Which was pretty much the basis of all the allegations you make against me.
8:43:38 PMNES I fail to see why there is a burden of proof on me, when you can make spurious allegations against me and have no issue with it.
8:43:41 PMCormac Ah, and not at all about trying to prevent my confirmation as Scribe of Foreign Affairs based on a policy I did not author?
8:44:04 PMCormac I didn't make any spurious allegations against you. Others did, and I repeated them.
8:44:17 PMNES I think I was against that before that policy was even issued.
8:44:23 PMCormac And they weren't spurious anyway, you did everything Vac said you did.
8:44:30 PMNES Would have to check the timings.
8:44:36 PMCormac Yes, you were against it, but you're using this as ammunition.
8:44:50 PMCormac And undermining the government of the OFO because you don't like who was elected Pharaoh.
8:44:51 PMNES I haven't said anything more in that thread.
8:45:00 PMNES The nominations thread.
8:45:07 PMAvakael http://i.imgur.com/KRb1bVA.jpg
8:45:13 PMCormac Yes, you don't need to, you're saying it everywhere else.
8:47:49 PMwra shit
8:47:54 PMwra its almost 11pm D:
8:48:18 PMwra good night everyone <3 cya again maybe after long and painfull journey
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8:49:44 PMNES Anyway, I'm not "undermining the government"
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8:50:17 PMNES I'm just commenting on a specific policy which I disagree with.
8:50:41 PMNES If it were you commenting on my policy which you disagreed with, it wouldn't even be an issue.
8:50:52 PMRach stop it Muslim brotherhood
8:51:17 PMRach kidding ofc
8:52:54 PMCormac https://osiris.valthost.com/viewtopic.php?&t=10876583/
8:56:15 PMNES Interesting.
8:57:05 PMCormac I've also just been informed that United Kingdom has provided notice to Ainur that it will be terminating its treaty with them.
8:57:26 PMCormac Which makes it the second region to join Osiris' allegedly unreasonable, hypocritical, politically motivated policy.
8:57:30 PM TimAFK is now known as Tim.
8:57:57 PMRach But isn't UK led by Keiren? >.<
8:58:37 PMRach and don't they have a famous porn spammer/ possible forum destroyer in UK?
8:59:16 PMCormac I have no idea, but their issue is with the promotion of 94 Block to higher office.
8:59:19 PMTim Are NES and Rach shitstirring again? I can come back later.
8:59:35 PMCormac NES and Rach will be shitstirring through your entire term, better get used to it.
8:59:38 PMTim Of course.
8:59:41 PMRach but haven't they had Leonardo occupy higher positions?
8:59:44 PMTim Cormac, can you check the Cabinet channel?
8:59:48 PMNES Good point Rach.
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9:00:18 PMNES I think he's still there under another name
9:00:29 PMCormac I have no idea, I'm not familiar with the complete, unabridged history of UK's government or anyone who has ever been a citizen there.
9:00:48 PMRach Leonardo is a pretty famous porn spammer and forum destroyer...
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9:00:52 PM ChanServ gave voice to Xoriet.
9:01:01 PMNES Pretty prolific as well.
9:01:24 PMRach Doesn't Europeia have Hyanygo?
9:01:38 PMTim And as Cormac said, he is unfamiliar with UK, not with the individual you're talking about (I assume)
9:01:52 PMNES Leo was certainly Prince of Wales in UK relatively recently.
9:01:58 PMNES Not sure if he's still there.
9:02:08 PMCormac I'm aware of who he is, I wasn't (and still am not, in that you've yet to prove it) aware that he is in the government of United Kingdom.
9:02:11 PMAvakael http://explosm.net/rcg
9:02:26 PM KhentakawessIII is now known as Prograssive.
9:03:16 PMAvakael http://w11.zetaboards.com/NSUK/profile/3850986/
9:03:19 PMCormac [16:01] <+Rach> Doesn't Europeia have Hyanygo? <--- Is there supposed to be a point here?
9:03:57 PMRach just wondering about the criteria
9:04:21 PMRach Whoa wtf
9:04:31 PMRach Keiren is literally holding 4 positions
9:05:34 PMCormac It's remarkable how supportive Osiris' supposed allies are.
9:06:15 PMNES So they have a forum deleter in the Royal family.
9:06:25 PMRach I'm just curious what the criteria are
9:06:28 PMCormac An issue that should be taken up with the.
9:06:32 PMNES Another fantastic success for the OFO policy.
9:06:40 PMNES To have such illustrious supporters.
9:06:40 PM Cormac gave +b to *!*@84-51-151-6.alangr888.adsl.metronet.co.uk.
9:06:43 PM Cormac kicked you from the channel: NES.

[Ridersyl]

I don't have a horse in this race, so I'm just going to come right out and say... I'm not surprised you got kicked and you shouldn't have been either.

9:06:32 PMNES Another fantastic success for the OFO policy.

Taking a shot at the OFO in a snarky debate with Cormac when you already know he's kicked you twice in the same week is essentially "Suicide by Op".

As for the stuff about free speech and what's "anit-Osiran", it's ambient noise.

[North East Somerset]

I don't have a horse in this race, so I'm just going to come right out and say... I'm not surprised you got kicked and you shouldn't have been either.

9:06:32 PMNES Another fantastic success for the OFO policy.

Taking a shot at the OFO in a snarky debate with Cormac when you already know he's kicked you twice in the same week is essentially "Suicide by Op".

As for the stuff about free speech and what's "anit-Osiran", it's ambient noise.

I must admit, I wasn't particularly surprised either and never claimed I was.

Okay, so I get the idea, you don't care about the fact Cormac abused his Op powers to kick me over a political disagreement in which he lost the argument. That's fine, it's just a matter of what standard of political discourse you expect.

[Koth]

I'm locking this thread, the reasons for which should be obvious.

Direct any complaints directly at me. I dare you.