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[Proposal] Scroll of Horus
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:43 pm
by Neo Kervoskia
Antiochus wrote:Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:43 amWhat is the role of the Viziers in this draft? I don't think that's clear.
The roles and responsibilities of the viziers are determined by the Pharaoh. Rather than forcing the Pharaoh to appoint people simply to fill offices, this draft grants the Pharaoh wide latitude to determine how involved his viziers should be - whether they serve as advisors, department heads, or simply ministers without portfolio.
The Pharaoh needs this sort of flexibility to run the government.
[Proposal] Scroll of Horus
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:17 pm
by Antiochus
That makes sense, thank you. I have no more complaints/comments.
[Proposal] Scroll of Horus
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:29 pm
by Mike
Will a section of the government that is currently run by a vizier, say world assembly affairs, be directly led by the Pharoah if no vizier is appointed to cover it? I just want to make sure before I assume things.
[Proposal] Scroll of Horus
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:52 pm
by Cormac
USMC.LT.hopeful wrote:Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:29 pmWill a section of the government that is currently run by a vizier, say world assembly affairs, be directly led by the Pharoah if no vizier is appointed to cover it? I just want to make sure before I assume things.
Well, the Pharaoh could decide we're no longer doing that aspect of government anymore. A better example for this would be Media Affairs -- the Pharaoh may decide to discontinue the Oracle altogether, rather than appointing a Vizier, or a Sub-Vizier, or running it directly.
But yes, if that aspect of government continued and no one was appointed to run it, it would be the Pharaoh's responsibility.
[Proposal] Scroll of Horus
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:43 pm
by Neo Kervoskia
I would propose the following amendments to this draft related to the Heir Apparent and the Council of Guardians. They maintain the structure as proposed, but cleans up the language. They also emphasize the fact that the Pharaoh is not required, or expected, to appoint an Heir Apparent.
Article I wrote:I. Pharaoh
(1) The Pharaoh will be the monarch, head of state, head of government, and lawful World Assembly (WA) Delegate of Osiris.
(2) The Pharaoh will serve until abdication, or will automatically be removed from office upon their WA nation in Osiris resigning from the WA, being expelled from the WA, or ceasing to exist.
(3) The Pharaoh will be the ultimate governing authority of Osiris, responsible for interpreting and enforcing the constitution and laws of Osiris. The Pharaoh may, with the approval of the Council of Guardians, enact, amend, or repeal the constitution, laws, treaties, or declarations of war.
(4) The Heir Apparent will be first in the royal line of succession if the office is filled, followed by each Guardian in the order determined by the Pharaoh. The first person in the line of succession willing and able to serve will succeed to the office of Pharaoh in the event that the office is vacant.
(5) The Pharaoh may appoint the Heir Apparent or a Guardian to serve as Acting Pharaoh in the event of the Pharaoh's scheduled absence. In the event of the Pharaoh's unscheduled absence exceeding seven days, the first person in the line of succession willing and able to serve will serve as Acting Pharaoh.
(6) The Chief Scribe will promptly present all legislation passed by the Council of Scribes to the Pharaoh for consideration. The Pharaoh may then grant or withhold assent, but only legislation to which the Pharaoh has granted assent will become enacted law.
(7) The Pharaoh may, with the approval of the Council of Guardians, impose revocation of citizenship, ejection and/or ban from Osiris, or other measures to preserve the security and stability of Osiris, for whatever duration of time is determined appropriate by the Pharaoh.
(8) All powers not explicitly granted to any other institution or office by this constitution may be exercised by the Pharaoh. The Pharaoh may delegate any powers or responsibilities of the office of Pharaoh to other officials or institutions.
Article II wrote:
II. Heir Apparent
(1) The Pharaoh may appoint an Heir Apparent to serve as Vice Delegate and hold the second most endorsements in the region, up to a limit determined by the Pharaoh, which will be no less than ten endorsements over the limit imposed upon Guardians. The Pharaoh may remove the Heir Apparent from office.
(2) The Heir Apparent will serve until resignation, removal from office by the Pharaoh, or succession to the office of Pharaoh, or will automatically be removed from office upon their WA nation in Osiris resigning from the WA, being expelled from the WA, or ceasing to exist.
(3) The Heir Apparent will automatically succeed to the office of Pharaoh upon the Pharaoh's abdication or automatic removal from office. In the absence of the Pharaoh, the Heir Apparent will serve as Acting Pharaoh if available to do so.
(4) The Heir Apparent, if the office is filled, will be the chairperson of the Council of Guardians, presiding over the Council of Guardians according to its procedural rules and acting as its spokesperson. If the office of Heir Apparent is vacant, the first person in the line of succession willing and able to serve will serve as chairperson.
Article III wrote:(1) The Council of Guardians will be the security council of Osiris, tasked with enforcing regional security in cooperation with the Pharaoh. The Pharaoh may attend all meetings of the Council of Guardians.
(2) The Council of Guardians will be comprised of the Heir Apparent as a voting member, if the office is filled, and a minimum of three Guardians appointed according to the provisions of this constitution.
(3) Any citizen who served as Pharaoh under the Scroll of Ma'at, or is currently serving or will serve as Pharaoh following enactment of this constitution, will automatically be appointed to the Council of Guardians following their service as Pharaoh. The Pharaoh may, with the approval of the Council of Scribes, remove such Guardians from office.
(4) Should any person described in Section 3 decline automatic appointment, resign from the Council of Guardians, or be removed from the office of Guardian, except to serve as Pharaoh or Heir Apparent, they will not be subject to future automatic appointment or its protections.
(5) The Pharaoh may appoint additional Guardians, but such additional Guardians will number equal to or less than the number of Guardians appointed under Section 3 or a minimum of three additional Guardians, whichever number is higher. The Pharaoh may remove such additional Guardians from office without the approval of the Council of Scribes.
(6) Guardians will maintain WA nations in Osiris and will be expected to maintain high endorsement counts, up to a limit determined by the Pharaoh, which will be no less than 50% of the Pharaoh's endorsement count.
(7) A Guardian will automatically be removed from office upon their WA nation in Osiris resigning from the WA, being expelled from the WA, or ceasing to exist.
(8) In the event that the office of Pharaoh is vacated and the office of Heir Apparent is vacant, the first available Guardian in the line of succession will succeed to the office of Pharaoh. The line of succession will be determined by the Pharaoh.
(9) In the absence of the Pharaoh, and if the Heir Apparent is unavailable or the office of Heir Apparent is vacant, the first available Guardian in the line of succession will serve as Acting Pharaoh.
(10) The Pharaoh may delegate powers and responsibilities related to regional security and citizenship to the Council of Guardians, or to individual Guardians, as the Pharaoh determines appropriate.
(11) Unless otherwise provided by this constitution, all votes of the Council of Guardians will be determined by absolute majority vote, which is defined as 50%+1.
(12) The Council of Guardians may further provide for its procedural rules. In the absence of such rules, or under circumstances not adequately covered by such rules, the chairperson may determine provisional procedure.
(13) In the event that the office of Heir Apparent is vacant or the Heir Apparent is unavailable, the first available Guardian in the line of succession will chair the Council of Guardians as Chief Guardian.
I thank the convention for its consideration.
[Proposal] Scroll of Horus
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:42 pm
by Cormac
Those are good suggestions, NK, thanks! I'll incorporate them into the OP tomorrow.
[Proposal] Scroll of Horus
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:47 pm
by Halo
The pharaoh used to be able to grant titles of nobility. Should that be included here?
[Proposal] Scroll of Horus
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:37 pm
by Cormac
Halo wrote:Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:47 pmThe pharaoh used to be able to grant titles of nobility. Should that be included here?
I'm not sure it really needs to be included in the constitution. It's an implied power that I don't think anyone would dispute. That said, I don't feel strongly about it, so if folks feel it should be included I'm happy to throw it in somewhere?
On another note, I haven't gotten around to updating the draft with NK's suggestions yet, but I will tomorrow at the latest.
[Proposal] Scroll of Horus
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:14 pm
by Cormac
I've edited NK's suggestions into the OP now.
[Proposal] Scroll of Horus
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:56 pm
by Altino
I like these Heir Apparent rule changes.