I'm not saying NK should be kept out of the Deshret -- I honestly haven't decided how I'll vote yet -- but I feel I should point out that it isn't just guilt by association. When Empire briefly perpetrated a coup in December 2012, it was Neo Kervoskia, acting under false pretenses in his capacity on the Council of Ma'at (security council), who was lead for that coup. As far as I know, he did also join the rest of Empire in raising the Empire flag to protest Asta's term as Pharaoh and to intimidate her. So it isn't just that he was in their group -- he did actively participate in these things.The Almighty Jesus Whale wrote:Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:06 amKoth himself said that NK isn't a bad guy and was mostly given his punishment because of guilt by association.
I wouldn't feel the same way if say Biyah or Dalimbar was in this situation, but voting to expel NK, which is basically what we'll be doing if I'm reading everyone here correctly, is saying, 'Sorry, you chose the wrong side, and even though you only had a minor part in bad things happening, we're shutting you out for a bit'.
Seems wrong and like we're sliding backwards when we've just stepped out of the shadow that they've cast on Osiris.
I will add though, to balance this point, that the December 2012 coup was extremely brief -- by choice of the perpetrators, not because it would have been easily defeated -- and relatively non-destructive. NK later participated in the counter-coup against Douria in July 2013, particularly by assisting with propaganda against the coup, and spent many late nights strategizing against the coup with me on Skype, as did Asta, Biyah, Dali, and Neenee, among others. And in regard to the Empire flag incident during Asta's term, yes, he did raise that flag, but so did Tim and Raven and they have gone on to serve as Pharaoh and in other capacities within the OFO. So these are not unforgivable things, and I'm not saying he should necessarily be kept out, but the concern is more than mere guilt by association. He wasn't just a bystander who happened to share a group, he was an active participant. Just wanted to be clear on that.