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Koth is a spider lover

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:24 pm
by Tano Holland
War Wombat wrote:Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:18 pmWow. I don't think I will go to #osi again any time soon.
It gets rather kinkeh :ninja:

Koth is a spider lover

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:26 pm
by Venico
War Wombat wrote:Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:18 pmWow. I don't think I will go to #osi again any time soon.
I am sorry to hear that Wombat.

Another note is that I refuse to moderate links and attach ratings to them. Click links at your own risk. The only thing I will moderate is if "Adult" content is posted which would contain things like porn, extreme gore, things of that nature. That is a warnable offense and would be marked on someone's record. Again, the place to lodge complaints about #osi is with the channel owner, not this forum. They are two separate entities and IRC is a informal lounge where crass things are sometimes said.

Koth is a spider lover

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:29 pm
by Vaculatestar
#osi is not for the faint of heart or for those easily offended. You need to be able to put up with trolls and the like. :P

Koth is a spider lover

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:00 pm
by Small Huts
Venico BrightAxe wrote:Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:09 pmThe mention of a racial slur doesn't immediately make someone racist. Linking to an image where the slur exists definitely doesn't make someone racist. If I linked to an Eddie Murphie stand up bit where he says "Nigger" would I then be called a racist NAZI also? There was no malicious content posted and no malicious intent by anyone involved. Koth didn't say "Wow italian people are the worst." He didn't attack anyone, any group, present or absent.

I would say you are definitely misunderstanding and don't quite know what racist means. Or how offensive it is to imply someone is a NAZI.
Black people don't rate as 'anyone'? I believe the link characterised them as thieves, but I'm not too willing to read through it again to prove my point. I respectfully submit that perhaps it is you who are less aware of what constitutes racism. Casually including a racist link for the lulz is dangerously close in the least. Eddie Murphy, a black American, would be partaking in 'ownership' of the slur. The two cannot be compared.

I am again compelled to point out that what I did and continue to do here is warn off of such slurs, not to imply that the member IS such a person, but indicate that such a mistake might be made where reasonable self censorship is unforthcoming and to suggest, if anything, that it will cast a negative light on one's personal reputation as well as others with whom one is associated, namely all Osirans. I am trying to determine, according to Osirans, if this is indeed undesirable and to be discouraged or cavalier and to be dismissed.

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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:01 pm
by War Wombat
Vaculatestar wrote:Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:29 pm#osi is not for the faint of heart or for those easily offended. You need to be able to put up with trolls and the like. :P
Well, I suppose I will go there sometimes. I can put up with trolls. I'be dealt with Durk in Balder for long enough.

Koth is a spider lover

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:04 pm
by Venico
Tush Nebkheperure wrote:Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:06 pm5. What, if anything, should we expect to see done about last night's event and any future such bigotry?
Bigotry will be sternly dealt with and these people will be told to not show prejudice or malice towards others within the grounds of Osiris. However I have yet to see any bigotry take place on the forums or IRC. I think the RMB has had a few instances however.

VeniEdit: Koth did not attack anyone, including black people. He didn't imply thievery, he didn't imply violence. He linked to a spam game gone wrong. I don't see a single instance in those logs where anyone attacked, persecuted, or held prejudice against a group in that chat.

Koth is a spider lover

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:49 pm
by Small Huts
So, we may expect denial and defensiveness. I had hoped for better. Thank-you for your frank and honest replies, Ven. They have been disappointingly revealing.

Koth is a spider lover

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:57 pm
by shetef
Tush Nebkheperure wrote:Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:49 pmSo, we may expect denial and defensiveness. I had hoped for better. Thank-you for your frank and honest replies, Ven. They have been disappointingly revealing.
Are you fucking serious? Koth linked to something that someone else said, not something representative of his own views. This is something that the owners of #osi (who by the way are the founders of the Osiris Fraternal Order) take seriously. If you're uncomfortable with references to racist remarks made by someone not present in the channel, why are you on the Internet at all? OMG THERE MIGHT BE A RACIST SOMEWHERE.

Koth is a spider lover

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:00 pm
by Small Huts
yup, just like that, dismiss, deny

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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:09 pm
by Vaculatestar
They did nothing wrong, that link does not represent there views, or anyone's views in Osiris as far as I know. That was simply for people to laugh at how that particular spam game had gone wrong. Get over yourself, you're not winning any political points by being professionally offended by everything, I mean damn.