[Discussion] Motion to Declare George Holland Persona Non Grata

Post by **Koth** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:03 pm

a PNG declaration isn't something one should take lightly. I do not suggest you support this motion based on our experiences, but that's just me.

Vaculatestar · Post by **Vaculatestar** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:10 pm

Perhaps he should based on Georges recent actions and inflammatory statements made towards the OFO combined with our experiences.

Lands of the South · Post by **Lands of the South** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:37 pm

I agree with the motion.

Post by **Koth** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:40 pm

The fact that he's saying inflammatory things about the region isn't reason enough by itself to declare him persona non grata. However, the fact that he has no intention of sticking around here in order to actually try to "improve" the region and instead decides to bitch about us on a world scale, often editing out thoughts that could be used against him at a later date, is reason enough for me to not want him anywhere near this region anymore. It doesn't help that the only time he showed his face around here in recent times was to effectively delete his posts in the OsiMT RP.

Nierr is not the sort of person we want around our community, and lucky for us it doesn't seem like he has any intention of coming back.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:04 pm

Koth wrote:Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:03 pma PNG declaration isn't something one should take lightly. I do not suggest you support this motion based on our experiences, but that's just me.

Point taken

George Rahl Mountbatten VI · Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:52 pm

I am in agreement with the motion to declare Mr. Holland PNG.

Small Huts · Post by **Small Huts** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:55 am

This was all before me so I'll abstain.

Zaolat · Post by **Zaolat** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:16 am

Against.

Lands of the South · Post by **Lands of the South** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:33 pm

Treize Dreizehn wrote:Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:13 pmAfter his exit from government his ingame nation continued to garner endorsements. At the time we thought we were dealing with George Holland. It has come to my attention through George's comments in our embassy thread in TNP that he in fact gave his nation away to someone who was attempting to use it to subvert our government.

I usually prefer to judge people on their actions, not their words. That's why this did it for me. I interpret his behaviour as a hostile act towards the OFO and I don't see he is willing to cease his activities, which should suffice for a PNG declaration. Also, I doubt he will contribute anything constructive to our community.

Perhaps he should based on Georges recent actions and inflammatory statements made towards the OFO combined with our experiences.

I couldn't agree more.

Post by **Koth** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:00 pm

Slade Eisenfaust wrote:Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:16 pmAgainst.

Any particular reasoning? This is a discussion period after all