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Honored Elders of the Pschent:

It is my duty to inform you as Defender of the Thread and Scribe of Seshat that Cameron Romefeller has been charged with Treason and Conspiracy in accordance with Sections 1a and 3g of the Criminal Codex.

The events occurred in question on March 1st, over IRC during a conversation between the accused and Treize Dreizehn, Keeper of the Deshret and Scribe of Ma'at. The accused indicated to Scribe Dreizehn that he would potentially support a coup to overthrow the Osiris Fraternal Order and implicitly soliciting Scribe Dreizehn's assistance. Scribe Dreizehn continued this line of conversation in order to gauge the seriousness of such a statement, after which point the accused indicated an active desire and commitment to assist Scribe Dreizehn in a conspiracy to overthrow the Fraternal Order.

Occurring simultaneously was a conversation over IRC between Scribe Dreizehn and Cormac Somerset, Curator of the Deshret, where Scribe Dreizehn made it clear that he was pursuing this line of conversation in order to bait the accused and gauge whether or not his statements were to be taken seriously. I have attached transcripts of both conversations as the primary evidence for these charges. The conversation between Scribe Dreizehn and the accused is complete; however, the log between Scribe Dreizehn and Curator Somerset has been abridged in order to remove portions that are irrelevant to this case.

I will be serving as prosecutor on this case. Scribe Dreizehn and Curator Somerset have agreed to testify for the prosecution. I will be notifying the accused of the charges against him via PM, after which he shall have the right to designate any Priests of Seshat other than Scribe Dreizehn and Curator Somerset as his defense attorney.
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1.[13:33] <Treize_Dreizehn> Hey.
2.[13:34] <Treize_Dreizehn> I need some help from a defender. Can you be the guy? ;)
3.[13:39] <Cam> Yah?
4.[13:40] <Treize_Dreizehn> I desperately need two endorsements on a nation to submit something, and no one else can know why.
5.[13:40] <Cam> Okay, what you need?
6.[13:40] * Cam goes to check his WA
7.[13:41] <Treize_Dreizehn> right now I still need 2 endorsements, it's in TEP but I can move it if I need to
8.[13:42] <Cam> What are you submitting?
9.[13:42] <Treize_Dreizehn> Oh. A liberation.
10.[13:42] * Cam 's WA is his own name atm
11.[13:42] <Cam> Links
12.[13:42] <Treize_Dreizehn> Thing is Osiris guys can't know about it.
13.[13:42] <Treize_Dreizehn> http://www.nationstates.net/nation=yurope
14.[13:42] <Cam> Osiris can blow me
15.[13:43] * Cam looks
16.[13:43] <Cam> What are you liberating?
17.[13:43] <Treize_Dreizehn> Oh.
18.[13:43] <Treize_Dreizehn> St Abbaddon
19.[13:43] <Cam> Oh. IT's about to be destroyed, isnt it.
20.[13:44] <Treize_Dreizehn> Well not "about to". But it will eventually.
21.[13:44] <Treize_Dreizehn> At least according to what I've picked up.
22.[13:44] <Cam> I know. I've known it is
23.[13:44] <Cam> I know Raven is controlling cormac to do it.
24.[13:44] <Cam> No matter how much he denied to me.
25.[13:44] <Treize_Dreizehn> I'd rather not make it into a drama bomb.
26.[13:44] <Cam> Now you know why else I'm banned from Osiris.
27.[13:44] <Treize_Dreizehn> I just want to get the liberation in there.
28.[13:45] <Treize_Dreizehn> The liberation is more important at the current time.
29.[13:45] <Cam> Why so?
30.[13:45] <Treize_Dreizehn> bitter recriminations can come later
31.[13:45] <Treize_Dreizehn> cause I don't want to harm the chances, I'd rather it be a surprise
32.[13:46] <Treize_Dreizehn> once it's queued up whatever
33.[13:46] <Treize_Dreizehn> but until then I'd rather not deal with an anti-campaign ;)
34.[13:47] <Cam> Aye.
35.[13:47] <Cam> Any particular reason you want to lib St. Abbaddon?
36.[13:47] <Treize_Dreizehn> Me?
37.[13:47] <Cam> Yeah
38.[13:47] <Treize_Dreizehn> I got the info that they're planning to grief it a week or so ago
39.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> i passed it on but its not looking likely that anything is going to be done about it
40.[13:48] <Cam> And you don't believe in griefing.
41.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> well
42.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> it's complicated
43.[13:48] <Cam> Mahaj and UDL can't really. We don't have the numbers
44.[13:48] <Cam> I've been pushing Mahaj for a long time
45.[13:48] <Cam> Wont' fucking listen
46.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> i spent some time talking to topid about the region
47.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> he gave me the history
48.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> they don't deserve to go down like that
49.[13:49] <Treize_Dreizehn> and even though i've done some terrible shit, I don't support that kind of thing, you know? :P
50.[13:49] <Cam> Aye. Unibot was there when it was young.
51.[13:49] <Cam> I heard it was a good place.
52.[13:50] <Cam> Let me let you in on what happened with Raven and I
53.[13:51] <Cam> Mid argument about Govindia, the topic changed to St. Abbaddon.
54.[13:51] <Cam> He wants it erased
55.[13:52] * Treize_Dreizehn nods
56.[13:52] <Cam> His words were I asked cormac to.
57.[13:52] <Cam> So...that ignited an argument
58.[13:52] <Cam> I don't like Osiris much
59.[13:52] <Cam> I'm not liked there
60.[13:53] <Treize_Dreizehn> yeah but nothing is forever
61.[13:54] <Treize_Dreizehn> anyone else you know with a free WA?
62.[13:54] <Treize_Dreizehn> i'd rather no ask myself so's i don't have too many people connecting me to that puppet ;)
63.[13:54] <Cam> I do not :(
64.[13:55] <Treize_Dreizehn> well I'll wait
65.[13:55] <Cam> So...you do realize if Osiris knows you're organizing this, that you'll be thorwn out
66.[13:55] <Treize_Dreizehn> i do
67.[13:55] <Treize_Dreizehn> this is more important than that
68.[13:55] <Cam> I'm glad you think so.
69.[13:56] <Cam> Though, if you do get caught, I could forsee another Osirian Coup :P
70.[13:56] <Treize_Dreizehn> though i'd prefer not to get caught ;)
71.[13:56] <Cam> If anyone breathes wrong, its a coup
72.[13:57] <Cam> Mhm :P
73.[14:01] <Cam> I hope we can win. I can possibly get you the three WAs in the ALAF with us
74.[14:02] <Treize_Dreizehn> ya, this lib will probably block them from what they want anyway
75.[14:04] <Cam> Block who?
76.[14:04] <Cam> Osir?
77.[14:04] <Treize_Dreizehn> yeah
78.[14:04] <Treize_Dreizehn> raven in particular
79.[14:04] <Treize_Dreizehn> keeping abbaddon from going down is the point right now
80.[14:08] <Cam> Mhm
81.[14:21] <Treize_Dreizehn> but if it comes down to it, and I need your help for something like that, it's good to know i'd have it
82.[14:22] <Treize_Dreizehn> raiding and whatever is fine ending a whole region for a petty vendetta is over the line
83.[14:22] <Treize_Dreizehn> and if they can't see that, then they need to go
84.[14:22] <Cam> I agree Treize
85.[14:22] <Cam> I don't mind raiding, in fact, I encourage it
86.[14:22] <Cam> I'm a Defender, but more importantly, I'm an Anti-Imperialist
87.[14:26] * Treize_Dreizehn nods
88.[14:26] <Treize_Dreizehn> Well we'll work this for now, and see what needs to be done later.
89.[14:28] <Cam> Mhm
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1.[14:50] <Treize_Dreizehn> well cam's endorsing
2.[14:50] <Treize_Dreizehn> had to tell him why though
3.[14:50] <Treize_Dreizehn> So now he's damned too. ;)
4.[14:50] <Cormac> lol, I like that telling him why got him to do it. :P
5.[14:51] <Treize_Dreizehn> well
6.[14:51] <Treize_Dreizehn> He's of the belief that this was going to happen already.
7.[14:51] * Cormac nods
8.[14:51] <Treize_Dreizehn> didn't take much convincing
9.[14:57] <Treize_Dreizehn> hrm
10.[14:57] <Treize_Dreizehn> So. That's an interesting comment from Cam.
11.[14:58] <Treize_Dreizehn> For now what I'm about to paste don't leave this convo, yeah?
12.[14:58] <Cormac> Sure.
13.[14:59] <Treize_Dreizehn> http://pastebin.com/c2qSzZDE
14.[15:00] <Treize_Dreizehn> lotto juice in there
15.[15:00] <Cormac> lol yes
16.[15:01] <Treize_Dreizehn> [14:01] <Cam> I hope we can win. I can possibly get you the three WAs in the ALAF with us
17.[15:01] <Cormac> :D
18.[15:01] <Treize_Dreizehn> I don't know what da ALAF is.
19.[15:02] <Treize_Dreizehn> But that seemed pertinent
20.[15:02] <Cormac> The Allied Liberation Armed Forces, his upstart alternative to the UDL. :P
21.[15:02] <Treize_Dreizehn> aha
22.[15:03] <Treize_Dreizehn> Well. It looks like he's talking about supporting me in a coup.
23.[15:03] <Cormac> I'm thinking when this whole thing is over we should expose that this was our plan all along, thus embarrassing the shit out of Cam and ALAF.
24.[15:04] <Cormac> ...and possibly convicting him of Treason. :P
25.[15:04] <Treize_Dreizehn> I'd be, non-plussed with that conclusion. But it looks like treason to me.
26.[15:05] <Treize_Dreizehn> I'd prefer not to get burned for future intel ops. ;)
27.[15:05] <Cormac> It's so juicy though. :P
28.[15:06] <Treize_Dreizehn> man if you knew the stuff I'm sitting on? ;)
29.[15:06] <Cormac> But I suppose we could use it later and see what more you can get.
30.[15:06] <Treize_Dreizehn> this is only getting passed along because Raven's endorsement level is low
31.[15:09] <Cormac> I'll keep an eye on the security situation.
32.[15:11] <Treize_Dreizehn> but if the lib fails or I get leaked... well
33.[15:11] <Treize_Dreizehn> que sera sera I guess ;)
34.[15:13] <Cormac> lol yes. :P
35.[15:22] <Treize_Dreizehn> lemme bait him into a particularly damning statement
36.[15:23] <Cormac> :D
37.[15:24] <Treize_Dreizehn> [14:21] <Treize_Dreizehn> but if it comes down to it, and I need your help for something like that, it's good to know i'd have it [14:22] <Treize_Dreizehn> raiding and whatever is fine ending a whole region for a petty vendetta is over the line [14:22] <Treize_Dreizehn> and if they can't see that, then they need to go [14:22] <Cam> I agree Treize [14:22] <Cam> I don't mind raiding, in fact, I encourage it [14:22] <Cam> I'm a De
38.[15:25] <Treize_Dreizehn> that works right?
39.[15:25] <Cormac> It cut off at I'm a De
40.[15:26] <Treize_Dreizehn> fender, but more importantly, I'm an Anti-Imperialist"
41.[15:26] <Treize_Dreizehn> that's the rest
42.[15:26] <Cormac> Not only does that work
43.[15:26] <Cormac> but I think I just had an e-orgasm. :P
44.[15:28] <Treize_Dreizehn> well ok then ;)
45.[15:28] <Cormac> lmao
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edited mistakes in OP - Cormac's surname is now Somerset. Also placed conversations in spoilers in case the Elders don't have Word.
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As Pharaoh of Osiris, I would like to make an addendum to the above in stating that the nation of the accused, as cited here, has ceased to exist.

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I moved it back, having previously forgot about it as my weeks became hard. That's all I'll say at the moment, posted on Gameplay already.
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Zeorus wrote:Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:25 pmHonored Elders of the Pschent:

It is my duty to inform you as Defender of the Thread and Scribe of Seshat that Cameron Romefeller has been charged with Treason and Conspiracy in accordance with Sections 1a and 3g of the Criminal Codex.

The events occurred in question on March 1st, over IRC during a conversation between the accused and Treize Dreizehn, Keeper of the Deshret and Scribe of Ma'at. The accused indicated to Scribe Dreizehn that he would potentially support a coup to overthrow the Osiris Fraternal Order and implicitly soliciting Scribe Dreizehn's assistance. Scribe Dreizehn continued this line of conversation in order to gauge the seriousness of such a statement, after which point the accused indicated an active desire and commitment to assist Scribe Dreizehn in a conspiracy to overthrow the Fraternal Order.

Occurring simultaneously was a conversation over IRC between Scribe Dreizehn and Cormac Somerset, Curator of the Deshret, where Scribe Dreizehn made it clear that he was pursuing this line of conversation in order to bait the accused and gauge whether or not his statements were to be taken seriously. I have attached transcripts of both conversations as the primary evidence for these charges. The conversation between Scribe Dreizehn and the accused is complete; however, the log between Scribe Dreizehn and Curator Somerset has been abridged in order to remove portions that are irrelevant to this case.

I will be serving as prosecutor on this case. Scribe Dreizehn and Curator Somerset have agreed to testify for the prosecution. I will be notifying the accused of the charges against him via PM, after which he shall have the right to designate any Priests of Seshat other than Scribe Dreizehn and Curator Somerset as his defense attorney.
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1.[13:33] <Treize_Dreizehn> Hey.
2.[13:34] <Treize_Dreizehn> I need some help from a defender. Can you be the guy? ;)
3.[13:39] <Cam> Yah?
4.[13:40] <Treize_Dreizehn> I desperately need two endorsements on a nation to submit something, and no one else can know why.
5.[13:40] <Cam> Okay, what you need?
6.[13:40] * Cam goes to check his WA
7.[13:41] <Treize_Dreizehn> right now I still need 2 endorsements, it's in TEP but I can move it if I need to
8.[13:42] <Cam> What are you submitting?
9.[13:42] <Treize_Dreizehn> Oh. A liberation.
10.[13:42] * Cam 's WA is his own name atm
11.[13:42] <Cam> Links
12.[13:42] <Treize_Dreizehn> Thing is Osiris guys can't know about it.
13.[13:42] <Treize_Dreizehn> http://www.nationstates.net/nation=yurope
14.[13:42] <Cam> Osiris can blow me
15.[13:43] * Cam looks
16.[13:43] <Cam> What are you liberating?
17.[13:43] <Treize_Dreizehn> Oh.
18.[13:43] <Treize_Dreizehn> St Abbaddon
19.[13:43] <Cam> Oh. IT's about to be destroyed, isnt it.
20.[13:44] <Treize_Dreizehn> Well not "about to". But it will eventually.
21.[13:44] <Treize_Dreizehn> At least according to what I've picked up.
22.[13:44] <Cam> I know. I've known it is
23.[13:44] <Cam> I know Raven is controlling cormac to do it.
24.[13:44] <Cam> No matter how much he denied to me.
25.[13:44] <Treize_Dreizehn> I'd rather not make it into a drama bomb.
26.[13:44] <Cam> Now you know why else I'm banned from Osiris.
27.[13:44] <Treize_Dreizehn> I just want to get the liberation in there.
28.[13:45] <Treize_Dreizehn> The liberation is more important at the current time.
29.[13:45] <Cam> Why so?
30.[13:45] <Treize_Dreizehn> bitter recriminations can come later
31.[13:45] <Treize_Dreizehn> cause I don't want to harm the chances, I'd rather it be a surprise
32.[13:46] <Treize_Dreizehn> once it's queued up whatever
33.[13:46] <Treize_Dreizehn> but until then I'd rather not deal with an anti-campaign ;)
34.[13:47] <Cam> Aye.
35.[13:47] <Cam> Any particular reason you want to lib St. Abbaddon?
36.[13:47] <Treize_Dreizehn> Me?
37.[13:47] <Cam> Yeah
38.[13:47] <Treize_Dreizehn> I got the info that they're planning to grief it a week or so ago
39.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> i passed it on but its not looking likely that anything is going to be done about it
40.[13:48] <Cam> And you don't believe in griefing.
41.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> well
42.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> it's complicated
43.[13:48] <Cam> Mahaj and UDL can't really. We don't have the numbers
44.[13:48] <Cam> I've been pushing Mahaj for a long time
45.[13:48] <Cam> Wont' fucking listen
46.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> i spent some time talking to topid about the region
47.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> he gave me the history
48.[13:48] <Treize_Dreizehn> they don't deserve to go down like that
49.[13:49] <Treize_Dreizehn> and even though i've done some terrible shit, I don't support that kind of thing, you know? :P
50.[13:49] <Cam> Aye. Unibot was there when it was young.
51.[13:49] <Cam> I heard it was a good place.
52.[13:50] <Cam> Let me let you in on what happened with Raven and I
53.[13:51] <Cam> Mid argument about Govindia, the topic changed to St. Abbaddon.
54.[13:51] <Cam> He wants it erased
55.[13:52] * Treize_Dreizehn nods
56.[13:52] <Cam> His words were I asked cormac to.
57.[13:52] <Cam> So...that ignited an argument
58.[13:52] <Cam> I don't like Osiris much
59.[13:52] <Cam> I'm not liked there
60.[13:53] <Treize_Dreizehn> yeah but nothing is forever
61.[13:54] <Treize_Dreizehn> anyone else you know with a free WA?
62.[13:54] <Treize_Dreizehn> i'd rather no ask myself so's i don't have too many people connecting me to that puppet ;)
63.[13:54] <Cam> I do not :(
64.[13:55] <Treize_Dreizehn> well I'll wait
65.[13:55] <Cam> So...you do realize if Osiris knows you're organizing this, that you'll be thorwn out
66.[13:55] <Treize_Dreizehn> i do
67.[13:55] <Treize_Dreizehn> this is more important than that
68.[13:55] <Cam> I'm glad you think so.
69.[13:56] <Cam> Though, if you do get caught, I could forsee another Osirian Coup :P
70.[13:56] <Treize_Dreizehn> though i'd prefer not to get caught ;)
71.[13:56] <Cam> If anyone breathes wrong, its a coup
72.[13:57] <Cam> Mhm :P
73.[14:01] <Cam> I hope we can win. I can possibly get you the three WAs in the ALAF with us
74.[14:02] <Treize_Dreizehn> ya, this lib will probably block them from what they want anyway
75.[14:04] <Cam> Block who?
76.[14:04] <Cam> Osir?
77.[14:04] <Treize_Dreizehn> yeah
78.[14:04] <Treize_Dreizehn> raven in particular
79.[14:04] <Treize_Dreizehn> keeping abbaddon from going down is the point right now
80.[14:08] <Cam> Mhm
81.[14:21] <Treize_Dreizehn> but if it comes down to it, and I need your help for something like that, it's good to know i'd have it
82.[14:22] <Treize_Dreizehn> raiding and whatever is fine ending a whole region for a petty vendetta is over the line
83.[14:22] <Treize_Dreizehn> and if they can't see that, then they need to go
84.[14:22] <Cam> I agree Treize
85.[14:22] <Cam> I don't mind raiding, in fact, I encourage it
86.[14:22] <Cam> I'm a Defender, but more importantly, I'm an Anti-Imperialist
87.[14:26] * Treize_Dreizehn nods
88.[14:26] <Treize_Dreizehn> Well we'll work this for now, and see what needs to be done later.
89.[14:28] <Cam> Mhm
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1.[14:50] <Treize_Dreizehn> well cam's endorsing
2.[14:50] <Treize_Dreizehn> had to tell him why though
3.[14:50] <Treize_Dreizehn> So now he's damned too. ;)
4.[14:50] <Cormac> lol, I like that telling him why got him to do it. :P
5.[14:51] <Treize_Dreizehn> well
6.[14:51] <Treize_Dreizehn> He's of the belief that this was going to happen already.
7.[14:51] * Cormac nods
8.[14:51] <Treize_Dreizehn> didn't take much convincing
9.[14:57] <Treize_Dreizehn> hrm
10.[14:57] <Treize_Dreizehn> So. That's an interesting comment from Cam.
11.[14:58] <Treize_Dreizehn> For now what I'm about to paste don't leave this convo, yeah?
12.[14:58] <Cormac> Sure.
13.[14:59] <Treize_Dreizehn> http://pastebin.com/c2qSzZDE
14.[15:00] <Treize_Dreizehn> lotto juice in there
15.[15:00] <Cormac> lol yes
16.[15:01] <Treize_Dreizehn> [14:01] <Cam> I hope we can win. I can possibly get you the three WAs in the ALAF with us
17.[15:01] <Cormac> :D
18.[15:01] <Treize_Dreizehn> I don't know what da ALAF is.
19.[15:02] <Treize_Dreizehn> But that seemed pertinent
20.[15:02] <Cormac> The Allied Liberation Armed Forces, his upstart alternative to the UDL. :P
21.[15:02] <Treize_Dreizehn> aha
22.[15:03] <Treize_Dreizehn> Well. It looks like he's talking about supporting me in a coup.
23.[15:03] <Cormac> I'm thinking when this whole thing is over we should expose that this was our plan all along, thus embarrassing the shit out of Cam and ALAF.
24.[15:04] <Cormac> ...and possibly convicting him of Treason. :P
25.[15:04] <Treize_Dreizehn> I'd be, non-plussed with that conclusion. But it looks like treason to me.
26.[15:05] <Treize_Dreizehn> I'd prefer not to get burned for future intel ops. ;)
27.[15:05] <Cormac> It's so juicy though. :P
28.[15:06] <Treize_Dreizehn> man if you knew the stuff I'm sitting on? ;)
29.[15:06] <Cormac> But I suppose we could use it later and see what more you can get.
30.[15:06] <Treize_Dreizehn> this is only getting passed along because Raven's endorsement level is low
31.[15:09] <Cormac> I'll keep an eye on the security situation.
32.[15:11] <Treize_Dreizehn> but if the lib fails or I get leaked... well
33.[15:11] <Treize_Dreizehn> que sera sera I guess ;)
34.[15:13] <Cormac> lol yes. :P
35.[15:22] <Treize_Dreizehn> lemme bait him into a particularly damning statement
36.[15:23] <Cormac> :D
37.[15:24] <Treize_Dreizehn> [14:21] <Treize_Dreizehn> but if it comes down to it, and I need your help for something like that, it's good to know i'd have it [14:22] <Treize_Dreizehn> raiding and whatever is fine ending a whole region for a petty vendetta is over the line [14:22] <Treize_Dreizehn> and if they can't see that, then they need to go [14:22] <Cam> I agree Treize [14:22] <Cam> I don't mind raiding, in fact, I encourage it [14:22] <Cam> I'm a De
38.[15:25] <Treize_Dreizehn> that works right?
39.[15:25] <Cormac> It cut off at I'm a De
40.[15:26] <Treize_Dreizehn> fender, but more importantly, I'm an Anti-Imperialist"
41.[15:26] <Treize_Dreizehn> that's the rest
42.[15:26] <Cormac> Not only does that work
43.[15:26] <Cormac> but I think I just had an e-orgasm. :P
44.[15:28] <Treize_Dreizehn> well ok then ;)
45.[15:28] <Cormac> lmao
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Blaine Zeorus Montresor
I must say, from a preliminary standpoint, this evidence doesn't really align with the charges presented.

1. If you will actually read those logs, the conversation between Treize and Cam do not support the charges of treason or conspiracy. Saying that you "forsee" a coup, doesn't mean you are planning one or are going to "overthrow or rebel against..the Osiris Fraternal Order" (Criminal Codex, Section 2.1.a). There needs to be a willful intent and a willful act to commit a crime - neither of which is present here.

2. If you will actually read those logs, you find that Treize is actually asking Cam, for help, so he (Treize) can have enough endorsements to submit a liberation resolution to the Security Council. This isn't against the law, even if it upsets some people in Osiris.

3. This "Indictment" was a waste of time to read, more so to the fact that the Evidence doesn't support the charges presented on the accused. I for one hope that our Scribe of Justice didn't blindly submit this case to the Pschent without looking at the evidence for himself.


I now recommend to my fellow Elders that this case be dismissed without prejudice, for clear lack of evidence.
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I'm quite familiar with the evidence, Your Honor. These charges were filed at the request of certain individuals who wish to remain anonymous at this time.

I preferred to leave judgment of the quality of this evidence to the Pschent as I felt it outside the domain of the Priesthood of Seshat to do so. As prosecutor I do have a responsibility to weigh the evidence but the ultimate ruling as to whether a crime has been committed rests with the Pschent. All that I can do is to decide whether the evidence is worthy to be brought to trial. In this case the discussion between the accused and Scribe Dreizehn coupled with the discussion between Scribe Dreizehn and Curator Somerset appeared to provide a suitable amount of suspicion that it was worthy to be brought to trial.

Neither I nor the Priesthood of Seshat have any ulterior motives in pursuing this case. I am merely fulfilling the duties of my office as I saw fit when presented with the circumstances and evidence.
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After reviewing the case I have decided to withdraw the charges against Cameron Romefeller. The Priesthood of Seshat thanks the Pschent for their consideration.
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Thanks Zeorus.

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Since the Charges against Cameron Romefeller have been withdrawn by the Scribe of Justice -- This hearing of the Pschent is adjourned.

*Gavel Bang*

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